WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.428 --> 00:00:08.140 WLWV School District: The budget meeting for the Westland Wilsonville School district fiscal year 2025, through 2026. 2 00:00:09.045 --> 00:00:12.079 WLWV School District: Miss Douglas, can you call the 3 00:00:15.969 --> 00:00:26.830 WLWV School District: Thank you, Megan. 4 00:00:27.180 --> 00:00:27.810 Kishore Kollu: Here. 5 00:00:27.810 --> 00:00:33.730 WLWV School District: Charles Steele here. Thank you. Thank you. 6 00:00:41.720 --> 00:00:44.810 WLWV School District: We're going to begin with public comment 7 00:00:45.930 --> 00:00:49.890 WLWV School District: to foster a climate that encourages and values public Input 8 00:00:51.340 --> 00:00:59.659 WLWV School District: we take public comment at this Budget committee meeting, and we value your opinions, thoughts, and recommendations regarding the budget. 9 00:01:00.200 --> 00:01:06.480 WLWV School District: If you wish to make a public comment, please sign up the sign in sheet at the back, or let Miss Douglas know 10 00:01:07.920 --> 00:01:19.690 WLWV School District: the public comment. Time is a time for the Budget Committee to collect information rather than engage in a dialogue. We encourage speakers not to mistake our silence for a lack of interest. 11 00:01:20.660 --> 00:01:23.510 WLWV School District: We are listening carefully and usually taking notes. 12 00:01:23.710 --> 00:01:36.789 WLWV School District: If you are asking the District or Budget Committee to respond to provide information, you could provide your contact information with the Board Secretary so that appropriate person might follow up with you 13 00:01:39.380 --> 00:01:56.840 WLWV School District: public comment. Time is not a forum for singling out individual district employees for a complaint. If you have a complaint about a district employee. Please don't mention them by name, or provide information that would allow for them to be identified. Those should be taken up in the District complaint process accessible on the website. 14 00:01:57.990 --> 00:02:01.009 WLWV School District: This is time for addressing the public committee. 15 00:02:01.580 --> 00:02:09.790 WLWV School District: All comments will be given their due respect, and we ask that members of the audience. Be respectful of all speakers, and refrain from responding during that time. 16 00:02:09.900 --> 00:02:20.400 WLWV School District: Keep your comments to 3 min. If 3 min is not enough time, you're welcome to reach out to the district office or the Budget Committee at a later time, or submit materials to 17 00:02:20.860 --> 00:02:28.670 WLWV School District: the Budget Committee or to the board. They'll be meeting again. June 16th to formally 18 00:02:29.100 --> 00:02:32.499 WLWV School District: adopt the budget, the Budget Committee. 19 00:02:34.870 --> 00:02:37.760 WLWV School District: and you can provide written comments if you wish. 20 00:02:38.330 --> 00:02:39.820 WLWV School District: So, Mr. Mccabe. 21 00:02:50.850 --> 00:02:52.223 WLWV School District: good afternoon. 22 00:02:55.320 --> 00:03:00.559 WLWV School District: some of this information I just did not get till a half hour ago. I asked for it over 23 00:03:01.040 --> 00:03:06.009 WLWV School District: 2 weeks ago that we've only had our other 2 here. 24 00:03:08.120 --> 00:03:14.669 WLWV School District: And so what has to look at a budget is we are an inclusionary school. 25 00:03:15.090 --> 00:03:18.030 WLWV School District: That's right, doesn't give us enough money. 26 00:03:18.650 --> 00:03:21.009 WLWV School District: However, we are not into the city. 27 00:03:21.120 --> 00:03:24.320 WLWV School District: the student success staff. Every year we use 28 00:03:24.860 --> 00:03:30.640 WLWV School District: student Success Act. If you're an inclusionary school, you can give a hundred percent money. 29 00:03:30.810 --> 00:03:34.500 WLWV School District: The Student Success Act, which is over 9 million dollars 30 00:03:34.910 --> 00:03:40.219 WLWV School District: to the primary schools to address the inclusion portion of it. 31 00:03:40.570 --> 00:03:44.180 WLWV School District: And I'm not. You haven't done it for the last 2 years. 32 00:03:44.960 --> 00:03:55.910 WLWV School District: This is basically we need to do it for next year. We have to use students says that great because we're going to get 35 students per classroom in the primary grades. We might as well look. 33 00:03:56.130 --> 00:04:04.729 WLWV School District: change open enrollment, and allow people to leave this district and go to other neighboring districts which have substantially smaller class sizes. 34 00:04:05.020 --> 00:04:13.130 WLWV School District: We're not in this year anybody would want to come to it. We have to look at this completely different, and you have, until June 30th 35 00:04:13.250 --> 00:04:14.560 WLWV School District: work. With this 36 00:04:15.150 --> 00:04:22.530 WLWV School District: the question which had been going on the last couple of years, which your department of revenue says, correct. 37 00:04:23.010 --> 00:04:26.370 WLWV School District: the solution can't be following it, which was 38 00:04:26.590 --> 00:04:30.939 WLWV School District: to put the funds for the Geo bond. This separate account 39 00:04:31.040 --> 00:04:33.099 WLWV School District: and the interest is a separate queue. 40 00:04:34.810 --> 00:04:37.999 WLWV School District: and it all changed this month. 41 00:04:38.720 --> 00:04:47.139 WLWV School District: The interest income basically went down as fast as close to 0 $5,800 42 00:04:47.840 --> 00:04:53.700 WLWV School District: in my end. If the thing says Geo. Wants to one cable in June every year. 43 00:04:54.540 --> 00:04:57.649 WLWV School District: So where did the money go? Where else it diverge? 44 00:04:59.130 --> 00:05:01.749 WLWV School District: No news, no transparency. 45 00:05:02.540 --> 00:05:11.069 WLWV School District: And we need those records to find out where that 9, 1, 2 are we using it because we share money in another account, which is illegal 46 00:05:11.990 --> 00:05:13.660 WLWV School District: cannot be done. 47 00:05:14.750 --> 00:05:23.810 WLWV School District: And so before we go, and within a half hour and say, Approve the budget. Things like this have to be looked at and point out what is going on. 48 00:05:24.120 --> 00:05:34.509 WLWV School District: and why for 9 years, and refuse to put any interest income into the Shield Bond Fund, over 5 million dollars diverted from the public. 49 00:05:35.170 --> 00:05:38.379 WLWV School District: which was increased taxes on property taxes. 50 00:05:40.255 --> 00:05:46.299 WLWV School District: To just say, well, we'll look at it internally. Internally it went wrong. 51 00:05:46.730 --> 00:05:50.559 WLWV School District: and I didn't get the information like I said. 52 00:05:54.570 --> 00:05:55.460 WLWV School District: Thank you. 53 00:05:55.600 --> 00:05:57.159 WLWV School District: Thank you, Miss Rankier. 54 00:05:58.400 --> 00:06:00.469 WLWV School District: Is there anyone else wish to speak? 55 00:06:00.740 --> 00:06:06.550 WLWV School District: Can I have you sign up and listen? 56 00:06:32.110 --> 00:06:33.360 WLWV School District: Christy Longs? 57 00:06:36.970 --> 00:06:38.140 WLWV School District: Good evening. 58 00:06:38.640 --> 00:06:41.700 WLWV School District: But if you would ask me about those numbers. 59 00:06:42.160 --> 00:06:46.090 WLWV School District: the declaration of what we value we will choose to use. 60 00:06:46.690 --> 00:06:51.650 WLWV School District: So let's be honest with ourselves. This isn't a crisis of circumstance. 61 00:06:51.810 --> 00:06:56.679 WLWV School District: surprises of choice, and the power to change words is in your hands right now. 62 00:06:57.010 --> 00:07:09.889 WLWV School District: This isn't sales doing. It's not completion. And it's not even about first.st It's about decisions we've made here by leadership over the last 5 years. And decisions created this in different decisions can fix. 63 00:07:10.190 --> 00:07:31.289 WLWV School District: Let's look at what we know. The 6 million dollars pers increase for 2526 was not a surprise. The warnings were cleared in 2023, but there is hope. Sb. 8, 4, 9 purse regularly has passed, and the approximate 1st rate will go down 1.6 8%. I urge that you adjust your budget accordingly, and allocate savings to teachers and classroom staff at costume. 64 00:07:31.670 --> 00:07:49.250 WLWV School District: Administrative spending has increased from 71%, and the proposed budget does not even begin to address it. So let's go deeper, because the most consequential choice was at all occurs. It was building and opening schools, even though the new enrollment was declined, and our children who are paying the price. 65 00:07:49.620 --> 00:07:59.310 WLWV School District: Furthermore, the district is holding over 14 million end of service, 10% of general fund, Sherwood, the smaller district, holds more than 3%, and they're not cutting any teachers. 66 00:07:59.430 --> 00:08:04.240 WLWV School District: So what does that tell us? Better forecasting, better budgeting was better choices. 67 00:08:04.420 --> 00:08:17.490 WLWV School District: If your concern is limiting access to Federal funding. The good news is that's only 2 million dollars a year, and I think we are going to survive that. Ask yourself, are we holding 14 million dollars because we expect a 14 million dollars. Mistake. 68 00:08:17.650 --> 00:08:19.340 WLWV School District: What are we celebrating of 69 00:08:19.460 --> 00:08:35.409 WLWV School District: districts like Sherwood or Cogniz, with River and Silver Falls? They are keeping their teachers because they trust their members because they trust their values. And we used to do the same. But let me paint you a different picture of a future where we invest in classrooms and not construction, where every child gets the teachers to support in the space they deserve. 70 00:08:35.530 --> 00:08:38.279 WLWV School District: And we go back and say we chose courage. 71 00:08:38.650 --> 00:08:55.769 WLWV School District: You still have that choice right now. Put a minimum cap on classrooms. At first, st if you can blend classrooms in primary, then you can blend reverse. Why do they get to play by a different set of rules? If you pass this budget tonight, the record will show that you chose administration over safe class sizes for 5. 72 00:08:55.860 --> 00:09:12.170 WLWV School District: But you don't have to. We pass budgets in June before there's still time to get this right. We should table the vote, sizeable cost and restore funding for teachers and classified staffing classes because it's not just about numbers, it's about who we are and who we want to become. 73 00:09:12.500 --> 00:09:14.622 WLWV School District: Please choose classrooms. 74 00:09:18.340 --> 00:09:21.750 WLWV School District: Thank you, Athena. Contrast. 75 00:09:23.150 --> 00:09:27.550 WLWV School District: I think I butchered your last name. Correct me? 76 00:09:28.305 --> 00:09:41.664 WLWV School District: So I am not coming with anything. I just wanna have lots of questions, and that's what I was hoping to get answered. I wish I could ask my questions at the end, so I don't have any redundancies here, but 77 00:09:42.040 --> 00:09:59.869 WLWV School District: I think, instead of asking some of my questions, I'm going to focus more on the fact that I've kind of been looking over some of the different legislative changes that have happened through the years. And I think something to keep in mind. Maybe while we're going through the budget is looking. How, looking at 78 00:10:00.730 --> 00:10:06.809 WLWV School District: a little bit more equitability between, I think and 79 00:10:07.010 --> 00:10:15.320 WLWV School District: elementary schools, primary primary schools, because I know there's a lot of grants. There's a lot of grants doesn't seem like there's very many grants, for 80 00:10:15.470 --> 00:10:22.509 WLWV School District: it seems like there's full time we have enough for full time employees for 81 00:10:22.610 --> 00:10:29.259 WLWV School District: the scores. We have everything for high school, and we're getting all those grants ever. I believe that we can. 82 00:10:30.810 --> 00:10:36.359 WLWV School District: I don't know if we're trying to get grants for primary school. I don't know if we're trying to 83 00:10:37.170 --> 00:10:48.399 WLWV School District: ensure that the cats are even so that they don't impact kids. This generation will be in high school. And we're gonna have to make up for lost time. Because this is also a covid challenge. 84 00:10:48.880 --> 00:10:54.370 WLWV School District: So primary schools are a big focus. I hope you guys will consider that. 85 00:10:56.920 --> 00:10:58.479 WLWV School District: Thank you. 86 00:11:00.500 --> 00:11:04.409 WLWV School District: Is there anyone else who wants to provide public comment to the budget? 87 00:11:07.060 --> 00:11:08.110 WLWV School District: Thank you. 88 00:11:16.210 --> 00:11:21.929 WLWV School District: Dr. Hughes is our budget officer and our chief financial officer, and I'm going to turn it over to Robert. 89 00:11:23.000 --> 00:11:44.940 WLWV School District: Thank you. Good evening. Member of Western New School District Budget Committee. So I'm going to provide a summaries of the budget proposals for 2,506 the Western school district has met approximately 15 million in budget reduction for the fiscal year 2,506. 90 00:11:45.200 --> 00:11:51.299 WLWV School District: We do have one person one committee member on Zoom. And I just wanna make sure you're hearing. Okay. 91 00:11:53.980 --> 00:11:56.480 Kishore Kollu: Yes, yes, I am. Yes. 92 00:11:58.060 --> 00:12:07.260 WLWV School District: So layouts from district of post origin. We are navigating a challenging financial environment shaped by several key factors 93 00:12:07.600 --> 00:12:11.940 WLWV School District: in finance enrollment, increased staffing, level 94 00:12:12.130 --> 00:12:17.070 WLWV School District: license pro retirement rate growing through the meeting 95 00:12:17.480 --> 00:12:25.170 WLWV School District: and costs significant increase in material insurance, utility, transportation and worker compensation. 96 00:12:25.380 --> 00:12:38.409 WLWV School District: So before tonight, discussion and a follow up discussion. We want to extend our sincere thank you for your time, your thoughtful engagement, and a commitment over the last 2 weeks. 97 00:12:38.580 --> 00:12:44.519 WLWV School District: Your questions reflect deep your deep dedication to our student information. 98 00:12:45.540 --> 00:12:50.720 WLWV School District: We also want to take a moment to summarize the key theme and factor in that view rights 99 00:12:50.850 --> 00:13:09.490 WLWV School District: this reflect both the complexity of the budget, and that care with which you receive the proposal. So in front of you you will have a packet of question and answer regarding to the proposed 25. It's provided here for your references. 100 00:13:10.330 --> 00:13:12.749 WLWV School District: So the theme question and theme 101 00:13:12.950 --> 00:13:22.980 WLWV School District: alignment with strategic goals. You asked how the proposal chat of the district. Support strategic forms. 102 00:13:23.430 --> 00:13:32.070 WLWV School District: Every complement of the budget is aligned with this priority, and we are happy to both buy more detail if needed. 103 00:13:33.110 --> 00:13:39.640 WLWV School District: Transparencies of production, the reduction we met based on enrollment time 104 00:13:40.000 --> 00:13:50.629 WLWV School District: funding reality and an increase in expenditure with a focus on the 4 educational services sapling production. 105 00:13:51.050 --> 00:14:06.280 WLWV School District: This directly ties to current enrollment and availability of funding inclusive education impact while classroom size increased. 106 00:14:06.970 --> 00:14:15.769 WLWV School District: But the specially designed induction and Iet service will continue as required by law. 107 00:14:16.010 --> 00:14:19.879 WLWV School District: There are no change in service. Delivery for family. 108 00:14:21.081 --> 00:14:25.640 WLWV School District: Create your 1st chat solution for 20. 109 00:14:26.250 --> 00:14:40.920 WLWV School District: The district evaluate all suggestions through the len of equity student well-being and maintaining instructional quality, internal friends. 110 00:14:41.270 --> 00:15:10.229 WLWV School District: So this is a grant that's set up as a placeholder, because, as you know, the fiscal year starting July first, st and then June 30, th but a lot of our brand that the life cycle is starting October 1st to September 30, th and a lot of time when we put the budget together. The actual award is not available to us, so we do a lot of estimate. 111 00:15:10.410 --> 00:15:29.650 WLWV School District: So the implement grant is a placeholder for the district to have the authority approval in the budget, and adopted from the board. So when New Grant coming in, we have the budget authority to receive the money in Spanish without coming back to the door for approval. 112 00:15:30.510 --> 00:15:39.499 WLWV School District: I'm sorry the internal. What internal grant per life reduction. 113 00:15:40.120 --> 00:15:57.679 WLWV School District: if we have 1.6 8% rate reduction provide. So that will be some saving, and that saving will put into general fund and will have upset the 2627 reduction if needed. 114 00:15:59.560 --> 00:16:25.439 WLWV School District: General point summary. I provide the excel spreadsheet that we also provide the electronic, the excel spreadsheets. You can compare the the function of the project to the prior 2425, and in that it's easy to look up with how more than 5% increase compared to last year's active subject. 115 00:16:26.620 --> 00:16:34.180 WLWV School District: contingency and infant violence, contingency reserved for unexpected cost during the year 116 00:16:34.490 --> 00:16:47.789 WLWV School District: ending fund balance is protect jam remaining fund. So throughout the end of the year, and May or June. If we don't spend a contingency money, then that will grow into the ending fund. Balance. 117 00:16:49.350 --> 00:16:56.700 WLWV School District: Smf versus actual infant balance estimate are based on projection. 118 00:16:57.640 --> 00:17:09.620 WLWV School District: and the actual infant violence is the final amount, reflective expenditure, and any State revenue adjustment. So the variation are expected. 119 00:17:10.770 --> 00:17:27.090 WLWV School District: Investment, interest, the investment interest earn effort to be declined. So for 2324, it's about 5%, more than 5%, 2425, 45% low into 2526, 120 00:17:27.560 --> 00:17:34.260 WLWV School District: that for the purpose of the budget is based on 2%. In the addition to this one. 121 00:17:34.410 --> 00:17:41.219 WLWV School District: the business office set up a separate account in Lgip for that services. 122 00:17:41.480 --> 00:17:50.250 WLWV School District: So in November, when we collect the property tax that identified to the Geo. Bond debt services that money 123 00:17:50.480 --> 00:18:02.629 WLWV School District: direct into that special account. And throughout the year it will accumulate interest and that input will help reduce the tax rates in the next year for the tax 124 00:18:05.100 --> 00:18:14.560 WLWV School District: transportation function 2525, 52. So we are happy to discuss this further and reach out. And I, if needed. 125 00:18:15.700 --> 00:18:17.870 WLWV School District: Administrative staffend. 126 00:18:18.300 --> 00:18:32.380 WLWV School District: No administrative position eliminated for 2223 have increased, reinstated. The 2526 budget includes additional administrative and support staff reduction 127 00:18:33.740 --> 00:18:35.800 WLWV School District: student support services. 128 00:18:36.300 --> 00:18:40.380 WLWV School District: The budget maintained. The full circle of student support. 129 00:18:40.890 --> 00:18:52.530 WLWV School District: Service of students with special education must meet the legal requirement. Common and effort they mean. The district must provide a similar level of support 130 00:18:52.730 --> 00:18:57.459 WLWV School District: at a period year, either per student or the overall. 131 00:18:57.920 --> 00:19:06.280 WLWV School District: This protest of student services and ensure budget do not unfair impact our more vulnerable students. 132 00:19:08.270 --> 00:19:31.840 WLWV School District: safe branch based on fidelity Federal funding. So it's a very good question, because we have number of grant but only one State grant in the amount around 26,000 that have a little bit direct with the Federal funding. So if any reduction in Federal it won't have big impact to the district 133 00:19:34.010 --> 00:19:41.649 WLWV School District: legal things, the legal cost allocates multiple funds and function in the subject document. 134 00:19:41.770 --> 00:20:00.379 WLWV School District: So one of the thing that we have is we expect to receive approximately 900,000 would report on the fund 470 land proceeds, and that under miscellaneous revenue, and we'll use to support. Future lane related activities. 135 00:20:02.600 --> 00:20:07.480 WLWV School District: Investment account student investment account one through 71. 136 00:20:07.780 --> 00:20:31.040 WLWV School District: The award have increased, but the expenditure also increased because the cost and expenditure increased higher than the actual award coming in, therefore, you see some shifting position into the general fund. In order to have sustained some essential services in this asylum. 137 00:20:32.540 --> 00:20:45.399 WLWV School District: the say spoon fund and local revenue. This, say spoon fund and local revenue was either common, and probably that they do have the import relationship. So one run, go up, one, go down 5. 138 00:20:46.500 --> 00:20:57.060 WLWV School District: Enrollment and class sign, enrollment, projection and class size range are allies in the bargaining contract with rank, divide by grade, level 139 00:20:57.880 --> 00:21:01.399 WLWV School District: and supply and material. So 140 00:21:01.540 --> 00:21:12.130 WLWV School District: you can see the increase in 2420 by adaptive budget, and then back to regular but 2526 proposed, because last year we 141 00:21:12.507 --> 00:21:39.650 WLWV School District: come, we. We work on the strategy of a 1 stop shop to have cost saving and best the efficiency in the way we do business. But we throughout the year we recognize that the one stop shop or one side could not fit all. That's why, in 2526, we reallocate the budget out to school level or department level so they can take care of their premium on supplying material. 142 00:21:40.490 --> 00:22:03.243 WLWV School District: One of the last question that we received today regarding to the end of the violence and, according to the Oregon Oregon School Board Association, recommend at least 8% of the total adopted revenue at the Reserve and Infant Island, and according to the Gfoa, they say 143 00:22:03.780 --> 00:22:19.530 WLWV School District: no less than 2 months of regular general fund operation. So for our district, if no less than 2 months, that will be 25.2 million. 144 00:22:19.690 --> 00:22:35.580 WLWV School District: So in closing, thank you again for your question and strong support to our student and our admission. So with that I we would like to open the floor for any follow up question or new questions. 145 00:22:35.690 --> 00:22:41.969 WLWV School District: Of course, I had one clarification on the the State branch. 146 00:22:42.180 --> 00:22:49.389 WLWV School District: We've gotten a question about the State grants that how the Federal yeah. 147 00:22:49.530 --> 00:22:54.440 WLWV School District: So that's that's just the it's a safe grant that has some connection to Federal. 148 00:22:54.730 --> 00:23:15.490 WLWV School District: And the comment of, so if anything happens with the Federal, it's not much change just to that one. Of course, we know we have a lot of Federal grants like Ibba and title brands, so there is a lot of influence still on those ones. So just for those at home who may not know the difference between Federal grants and State grants, I just wanted to clarify that. 149 00:23:16.020 --> 00:23:16.760 WLWV School District: Thanks. 150 00:23:17.070 --> 00:23:27.339 WLWV School District: Is it possible to take a couple of minutes and review that comments that we didn't get before the meeting? Just so I can sort of is that okay, that help others. 151 00:23:29.620 --> 00:23:30.800 WLWV School District: I'm fine with that. 152 00:23:31.980 --> 00:23:33.749 WLWV School District: Sure. Thank you. 153 00:23:33.870 --> 00:23:37.099 WLWV School District: Let's come back at 5 30. Then. 154 00:23:38.860 --> 00:23:43.810 WLWV School District: alright, we'll take a break then, for people to continue to read through that 155 00:23:46.080 --> 00:23:58.950 WLWV School District: we have the day that the Budget Committee members submit, and the day that the thank you so much is there are they in order? So like 156 00:23:59.410 --> 00:24:06.889 WLWV School District: the things that we've already read right? Are, is there a specific location in this? So people don't have to sift through 157 00:24:06.910 --> 00:24:24.980 WLWV School District: where the most recent that possibly could have been missed can be reviewed. They're on the back of this packet that you got right. Yeah. So they're just right in here, and we can go through and let you know what order they came in. That's what I just so we can pinpoint which ones need to be reviewed so that we can keep this moving. 158 00:24:24.980 --> 00:24:40.900 WLWV School District: but also so that, you know. So we all don't have to come through 10 pages and go right to what's next. So the first.st So the 1st person who submitted was Gina, you can pull that one out. That was 1st we received that on Friday, May 9.th 159 00:24:41.710 --> 00:24:53.360 WLWV School District: Then we received friend, you've got Rachel part one. Okay. 160 00:24:56.280 --> 00:24:59.689 WLWV School District: and then I believe we received from it. 161 00:25:02.466 --> 00:25:10.080 WLWV School District: Oh, sorry, Kirsten, May 13.th 162 00:25:11.674 --> 00:25:15.345 WLWV School District: Then we had Dan on May 14, th 163 00:25:16.780 --> 00:25:20.890 WLWV School District: and then we had 2 that were submitted on May 16.th 164 00:25:21.060 --> 00:25:27.929 WLWV School District: So Chair Ginger Fitch, and then Rachel Beavers part 2, so that would be the order. 165 00:25:36.191 --> 00:25:38.999 WLWV School District: Got a question. So you're you're the last. 166 00:25:39.250 --> 00:25:51.880 WLWV School District: I know. Somehow I didn't get danced. I may have gotten it, and just yeah missed it. No worries. Okay, so I'm just, I'm only reviewing that one. Yeah, thank you so much for checking it. 167 00:26:23.460 --> 00:26:34.440 WLWV School District: It's totally okay. Yeah. Yeah. We'll start back up 168 00:27:54.175 --> 00:27:58.930 WLWV School District: it was already. 169 00:28:17.870 --> 00:28:20.170 WLWV School District: This is why I don't understand 170 00:28:20.580 --> 00:28:27.069 WLWV School District: to use when you were talking about the internal grant. 171 00:29:08.670 --> 00:29:11.239 WLWV School District: Okay, we're gonna start back up 172 00:29:11.700 --> 00:29:20.260 WLWV School District: and I will start with director sleeping over fun. 173 00:29:21.760 --> 00:29:23.209 WLWV School District: So I want to. 174 00:29:24.230 --> 00:29:31.630 WLWV School District: And it's piggyback on Dan's comments about the board or the district goals, and 175 00:29:32.540 --> 00:29:42.574 WLWV School District: making sure that the budget is in line with that for our student outcomes, and I've mentioned before that I still have a great concern with 176 00:29:43.960 --> 00:29:48.735 WLWV School District: eliminating so many positions at the primary level with our increased 177 00:29:49.990 --> 00:30:00.240 WLWV School District: ask of the teachers on curriculum, with literacy and math, as well as all the assessments, and as well as our inclusive model, where there's 178 00:30:02.010 --> 00:30:06.739 WLWV School District: the special education as well as something like regulation issues 179 00:30:07.190 --> 00:30:10.079 WLWV School District: that I feel is going to overtax 180 00:30:10.400 --> 00:30:13.699 WLWV School District: our finance centers can filter by. 181 00:30:15.410 --> 00:30:22.400 WLWV School District: So what will the class sizes, I know. Like it was. It was a comment, but 182 00:30:22.590 --> 00:30:28.550 WLWV School District: it wasn't really set yet. What the class sizes would be K through 2 and then 3 through 5. 183 00:30:30.070 --> 00:30:33.180 WLWV School District: And how will the teachers have support in classrooms? 184 00:30:44.700 --> 00:30:52.869 WLWV School District: Yeah, I mean, I think you know, this is this is the challenge. How do you 185 00:30:55.060 --> 00:31:01.650 WLWV School District: meeting those goals and every expectation with less resources? 186 00:31:02.040 --> 00:31:05.179 WLWV School District: So the expectation never seems, never goes away. 187 00:31:05.490 --> 00:31:08.820 WLWV School District: and the increased accountability towards that. 188 00:31:09.380 --> 00:31:16.690 WLWV School District: And you know the resources definitely. Not a current service level which we're hearing 189 00:31:17.080 --> 00:31:19.899 WLWV School District: from every school district, not just ours. 190 00:31:21.000 --> 00:31:23.509 WLWV School District: So how do you protect? And. 191 00:31:23.760 --> 00:31:29.379 WLWV School District: you know, make that actualize with less less resource and less people. 192 00:31:29.560 --> 00:31:36.370 WLWV School District: I think the challenge of reducing a budget accordingly, as 193 00:31:36.730 --> 00:31:41.650 WLWV School District: keeping all things in mind. Fortunately, you know, we for tonight 194 00:31:41.840 --> 00:31:45.350 WLWV School District: we thought about the levels we thought about each school 195 00:31:46.760 --> 00:31:51.350 WLWV School District: and when we also hear very clearly from our community. 196 00:31:51.640 --> 00:31:56.009 WLWV School District: keep all the investments or programs intact 197 00:31:56.550 --> 00:32:00.070 WLWV School District: for them at the board level for the community members. 198 00:32:01.170 --> 00:32:03.499 WLWV School District: So the best that we can do is then. 199 00:32:04.410 --> 00:32:10.999 WLWV School District: you know, do careful reductions of each of those key investments without eliminating one. 200 00:32:12.280 --> 00:32:19.910 WLWV School District: Nobody wants to see preschool eliminated. So what kind of reduction could you do there, or do a language or world language, any kind of reductions 201 00:32:20.560 --> 00:32:27.310 WLWV School District: or athletics music, the arts, you know. So how do you make some productions? 202 00:32:30.020 --> 00:32:39.570 WLWV School District: And our curricular programs are absolutely important around meeting. 203 00:32:39.880 --> 00:32:43.030 WLWV School District: just to bring in the one fun 204 00:32:43.390 --> 00:32:48.919 WLWV School District: for literacy and mathematics foundations as well as when you get to middle and high school. All those other 205 00:32:49.290 --> 00:32:54.200 WLWV School District: 4 classes, and then, which seems to be in elective classes as well. 206 00:32:56.490 --> 00:32:58.309 WLWV School District: And class size 207 00:32:58.770 --> 00:33:05.450 WLWV School District: has a relative impact. And we also know that there's a level of support services that come right alongside that. 208 00:33:05.960 --> 00:33:17.760 WLWV School District: So classroom teacher will say, it matters how many kids are in my class, but also when I need to specialized help. I need that person to come not a week from now or 3 days from now, but today. 209 00:33:18.470 --> 00:33:21.429 WLWV School District: So how do you keep the right level 210 00:33:22.230 --> 00:33:27.200 WLWV School District: of those kinds of support staff also there in place. 211 00:33:29.030 --> 00:33:36.780 WLWV School District: And so the reduction, the budget reduction is a combination of intact programs 212 00:33:37.440 --> 00:33:42.160 WLWV School District: as many support staff as we feel. We can reduce without 213 00:33:42.930 --> 00:33:50.860 WLWV School District: creating too much stretch in the organization, but still have a response. Time that teachers feel they need. 214 00:33:50.970 --> 00:34:02.080 WLWV School District: whether it's special education or skills, regulation or eld services or counselors or social workers, or they're administrative 215 00:34:02.420 --> 00:34:04.359 WLWV School District: to come in and provide support. 216 00:34:07.540 --> 00:34:12.009 WLWV School District: So that's that's that balance. And when we've. 217 00:34:12.150 --> 00:34:20.150 WLWV School District: you know, when there's a an opportunity to say, would you be willing to give up one thing or make a decision about something and 218 00:34:20.630 --> 00:34:22.449 WLWV School District: have more fte. 219 00:34:22.949 --> 00:34:28.100 WLWV School District: Those are hard decisions. And I think our School board knows that when we went through the small schools process 220 00:34:29.194 --> 00:34:37.920 WLWV School District: that was another decision to keep small schools knowing it stretches staffing. 221 00:34:38.880 --> 00:34:48.520 WLWV School District: So what we've prepared for you in terms of this budget is that direction from the board to keep all of our schools and the resource and revenue that we have. 222 00:34:48.880 --> 00:34:54.280 WLWV School District: and still make the reductions that we need to in order to have an ending fund balance. 223 00:34:56.340 --> 00:35:02.980 WLWV School District: That provides the right amount of assurance should we have surprises. 224 00:35:03.370 --> 00:35:08.650 WLWV School District: but also that carries over into the following second year of the biennium, and I can 225 00:35:09.120 --> 00:35:11.110 WLWV School District: share some information about that. 226 00:35:12.720 --> 00:35:20.019 WLWV School District: Whether we get more funding from the State the clock is ticking, and as time goes by it feels less hopeful. 227 00:35:20.140 --> 00:35:29.660 WLWV School District: We do know that the Furs Board will vote at the end of May, and that it should finalize that in point 6 8% off of the furs rate. 228 00:35:30.310 --> 00:35:34.439 WLWV School District: So that's not finalized yet. We can't put something in the budget until that's been finalized. 229 00:35:35.430 --> 00:35:39.129 WLWV School District: But if that happens we can show that to the board on June 16, th 230 00:35:39.350 --> 00:35:41.780 WLWV School District: as an amendment to the Budget 231 00:35:44.740 --> 00:35:53.059 WLWV School District: before the economic forecast came out last week I was pretty hopeful, and I think several of us around the table were around some sort of increase 232 00:35:53.280 --> 00:35:59.289 WLWV School District: to the special Ed cap and increased support for students on an Iep. 233 00:35:59.830 --> 00:36:04.510 WLWV School District: And I think we're perhaps less hopeful about that now. 234 00:36:04.720 --> 00:36:07.960 WLWV School District: Not only that, but I'm 235 00:36:08.720 --> 00:36:14.196 WLWV School District: I think it's going to be tight if we even get to keep all of our grants. The State grants 236 00:36:15.030 --> 00:36:20.290 WLWV School District: corporate activities tax came in less and just that economic forecast. 237 00:36:20.610 --> 00:36:28.420 WLWV School District: So the corporate activities tax is the one that funds the Sia grant, which also has the High School Success Act now as a part of it. 238 00:36:30.000 --> 00:36:31.190 WLWV School District: So 239 00:36:31.320 --> 00:36:41.290 WLWV School District: whether the State makes a decision to tap into some range funds or some reserve and keep that grant intact for districts as we've all based our budget on that or not, that'll be up to them. 240 00:36:41.630 --> 00:36:45.029 WLWV School District: But that's something that could be coming as well. 241 00:36:45.170 --> 00:36:48.340 WLWV School District: And so I think that's where you're ending. Fund balance 242 00:36:48.660 --> 00:36:58.429 WLWV School District: creates some cushion for whatever is going to come between now and August, whether it's Federal government changes to grants or 243 00:36:58.550 --> 00:36:59.760 WLWV School District: these grants. 244 00:37:01.800 --> 00:37:06.740 WLWV School District: Then there are things that are under a School Board's purview. 245 00:37:07.000 --> 00:37:11.789 WLWV School District: and we recently made a decision as a School board in 246 00:37:11.950 --> 00:37:17.869 WLWV School District: the decision on selling off and Landers property to use some of those proceeds towards restoring that staff. 247 00:37:18.840 --> 00:37:26.920 WLWV School District: So those are things that, whatever happens federally or statewide. You have that ability to direct those funds. 248 00:37:28.707 --> 00:37:36.399 WLWV School District: The School Board also has the ability to direct those reimbursement fees. 249 00:37:37.940 --> 00:37:43.870 WLWV School District: If you want the out direct staff around the allocation of those, the legal things. 250 00:37:44.690 --> 00:37:57.989 WLWV School District: So those are things, not for the Budget Committee, because you're approving this budget, but between now and August. As things come forward within the purview and the decision making of the board, there are some financial 251 00:37:59.152 --> 00:38:05.639 WLWV School District: decisions you can make that would help Staff feel that you can go forward and 252 00:38:05.790 --> 00:38:09.579 WLWV School District: hire some more staff affected for the next year. 253 00:38:09.860 --> 00:38:15.369 WLWV School District: We're also watching our enrollment at this point we are down 300 students. 254 00:38:16.123 --> 00:38:19.240 WLWV School District: But transfers are not completed. 255 00:38:19.760 --> 00:38:22.569 WLWV School District: People enroll, they move. 256 00:38:22.700 --> 00:38:35.030 WLWV School District: And so it's really a moving target. And to say, this is what class sizes. We just don't know, because, as it shifts, a principal might make a blend, they might undo a blend. And then that just changes things. 257 00:38:35.240 --> 00:38:38.629 WLWV School District: And so this is very typical that every year we actually 258 00:38:38.840 --> 00:38:43.729 WLWV School District: maybe predict some generalities in primary which I've done in the questions. 259 00:38:45.770 --> 00:38:46.605 WLWV School District: But, 260 00:38:47.780 --> 00:38:57.860 WLWV School District: we're far from being able to say, this is what we know specifically in each teacher's classroom or each, just because it's it's still moving. For example. 261 00:38:58.311 --> 00:39:07.520 WLWV School District: Later this week, through Rivers Charter School will do the lottery. So that feels like, so how many students that doesn't change our overall primary enrollment number. 262 00:39:07.670 --> 00:39:16.939 WLWV School District: But it does change. Where are those kids going from? They do one class to another. So we just have to wait for a few of these things to play out 263 00:39:17.160 --> 00:39:20.339 WLWV School District: and then stab up there. 264 00:39:21.600 --> 00:39:26.400 WLWV School District: I also want to ensure that. Our budget reflects 265 00:39:26.740 --> 00:39:44.409 WLWV School District: what the community in that survey. You know, they wanted small class size. They wanted the teachers coming back? Are we honoring an option levy and the verbiage in that where it's, you know, this is funding 90 teachers, and also so we can maintain our smaller class sizes, but they are going up. 266 00:39:45.340 --> 00:39:48.969 WLWV School District: So how is that? Yeah. So we're we're doing our best. 267 00:39:49.140 --> 00:39:57.859 WLWV School District: And if there's some suggestions tonight about what you would a program you'd like to see reduced or eliminated. 268 00:39:58.738 --> 00:40:01.679 WLWV School District: Whether that's this group, or 269 00:40:02.000 --> 00:40:05.569 WLWV School District: you know the board, as some discussion is. 270 00:40:05.830 --> 00:40:12.840 WLWV School District: it's not the weeds that we want the Budget Committee to get into. But if you're hearing in general that there is. 271 00:40:13.400 --> 00:40:23.520 WLWV School District: you know, information that you'd like as a budget committee to give the board around eliminating certain programs 272 00:40:23.890 --> 00:40:29.270 WLWV School District: that would mean some staff get restored and some staff are full the next few weeks. Then 273 00:40:29.670 --> 00:40:31.459 WLWV School District: they do not have a position. 274 00:40:32.080 --> 00:40:48.690 WLWV School District: and I'm not saying that to discourage that, I'm just saying we looked at the survey. We also looked at last year's survey, because this year was in April, we had to make those reductions early, as I mentioned, on our staff's request, to do those earlier, so people could get to the job. Fair. 275 00:40:50.370 --> 00:41:00.139 WLWV School District: We still hear from teachers. There's a point where class size matters, but I also want all those support people to come and help me with students in my classroom. 276 00:41:00.530 --> 00:41:08.339 WLWV School District: So how many eld teachers, how many learning specialists, an administrator to 277 00:41:08.520 --> 00:41:13.709 WLWV School District: handle things from a parent perspective or discipline, perspective, or evaluation. 278 00:41:16.140 --> 00:41:20.349 WLWV School District: So you know, within that feedback, like 279 00:41:20.520 --> 00:41:26.050 WLWV School District: what we didn't hear was we as a community could do without. 280 00:41:26.870 --> 00:41:30.530 WLWV School District: or we'd like to go back and consolidate to smaller schools 281 00:41:30.750 --> 00:41:34.950 WLWV School District: and bring class size down in primary or we'd like to. 282 00:41:35.460 --> 00:41:42.230 WLWV School District: although preschooling or some other program, mental health support. 283 00:41:44.550 --> 00:41:46.560 WLWV School District: Yep, but open to. 284 00:41:46.690 --> 00:41:54.019 WLWV School District: If tonight there are some suggestions that you'd like the Board to hear as a Budget committee 285 00:41:54.370 --> 00:41:56.410 WLWV School District: when now's the time for that. 286 00:41:58.950 --> 00:42:05.279 WLWV School District: I think one thing that I would like to add. And it's it's with the and corporate phone numbers. 287 00:42:05.380 --> 00:42:24.679 WLWV School District: It's late 2324, or early, 2425 when the the State sent out a survey to a lot of school district that let's go this school district in a reasonable size, to make sure they understand the current service level that we need for the school district. 288 00:42:24.720 --> 00:42:40.969 WLWV School District: and at the time in early 2425, the indication that for the current service level would be in order for to open the door and do regular business, we need to at least 12.8 billion at the same level. 289 00:42:41.080 --> 00:43:00.920 WLWV School District: but then the site level coming at 11.2 6. So we're saying less than the current service level that the school need to then recesses the way. When we put the budget together we evaluate the the. 290 00:43:01.040 --> 00:43:11.409 WLWV School District: We not only focus on this new surveys, but, like Dr. Said, we go back in the past and review the surveys. And we want to make sure that 291 00:43:11.590 --> 00:43:15.945 WLWV School District: the Budget review based on the community groups. 292 00:43:16.840 --> 00:43:31.172 WLWV School District: when I explained, but just simply, in a simple way to my mom, who come from Vietnam and not understand English. The way I explain is, it's like we have a family of 5 children, and now 293 00:43:31.850 --> 00:43:38.889 WLWV School District: the Y block, the income. So now we only have one income set up 2 income. So how do we 294 00:43:39.070 --> 00:44:04.390 WLWV School District: have the children understanding. Now we only have one income, and we have to make it work right. So instead of having breakfast out, you know, every every Sunday, go out for breakfast every Saturday night. Go out for movie. Then we could reduce a lot of that instead of, say, you know, 5 children. I lost my income. Therefore one of you were cooked up for abduction. 295 00:44:04.620 --> 00:44:22.560 WLWV School District: Alright. So we we're not doing that. But everyone will take the responsibility. Cost share responsibility to reduce a little bit of spending in order to make the operation work and not pushing one program. 296 00:44:32.400 --> 00:44:39.411 WLWV School District: Okay? And then, has there been consideration? Further consideration of 297 00:44:42.290 --> 00:44:48.180 WLWV School District: decreasing the district office summer hours, that mirror other school districts 298 00:44:48.280 --> 00:44:54.650 WLWV School District: in our area, and then also, and I also said 299 00:44:56.890 --> 00:45:00.880 WLWV School District: less than ideal. But any furlough days 300 00:45:05.320 --> 00:45:09.400 WLWV School District: as an option for consideration. 301 00:45:11.208 --> 00:45:14.790 WLWV School District: This budget does not reflect, or have in it 302 00:45:16.800 --> 00:45:23.050 WLWV School District: staff, who work in this office reducing their pay by their hours. 303 00:45:23.200 --> 00:45:29.089 WLWV School District: And is my decision there we already 304 00:45:31.000 --> 00:45:38.100 WLWV School District: in each department everyone's doing somebody else's job that we have not that we lost and did not replace. 305 00:45:38.850 --> 00:45:47.290 WLWV School District: And so already each team in this building is doing their own work as well as somebody else's, it was not replaced. 306 00:45:48.040 --> 00:45:48.845 WLWV School District: And, 307 00:45:51.730 --> 00:45:54.149 WLWV School District: I just want to honor that for our 308 00:45:54.300 --> 00:45:59.790 WLWV School District: staff, who are here long hours through the summer, I mean. 309 00:46:00.540 --> 00:46:08.159 WLWV School District: and to ask them to do additional work and then give us a it's something I'm thinking. 310 00:46:08.760 --> 00:46:16.449 WLWV School District: another place to do, and that amount for this summer that you would get from garnishing. Or. 311 00:46:16.640 --> 00:46:23.430 WLWV School District: you know, Furloane is not gonna fix 15 million right? And I think the 312 00:46:24.340 --> 00:46:30.270 WLWV School District: the unintended consequence that of that is a very deep morale 313 00:46:30.500 --> 00:46:47.059 WLWV School District: impact where this staff would feel when they're running out subbing classrooms for filling in for a principal who's out or attending more events and activities than they probably have done before working longer hours. 314 00:46:48.780 --> 00:46:50.420 WLWV School District: I think we would see. 315 00:46:51.130 --> 00:46:58.819 WLWV School District: Yeah, the little you would gain from that in terms of monetary. Doesn't fix 15 million 316 00:46:59.120 --> 00:47:06.250 WLWV School District: wouldn't even restore one teacher and and yet it could do some significant harm. 317 00:47:07.670 --> 00:47:11.349 WLWV School District: Wow! And then, in terms of the furlough days. 318 00:47:12.015 --> 00:47:23.269 WLWV School District: I, we presented a budget that does not include furlough base. It is a balanced budget. It has an ending fund. Balance and reductions were made without taking people's pay. 319 00:47:23.930 --> 00:47:32.399 WLWV School District: That said, if there is a group that wants to initiate an on their own offer to pay furlough days. 320 00:47:32.790 --> 00:47:34.670 WLWV School District: That is, up to them. 321 00:47:35.569 --> 00:47:53.190 WLWV School District: Our license staff has indicated that they've taken the survey, and they may be offering some furlough days for next year. I don't have that finalized and for certain to tonight, but the Board may be able to hear that by June 16, th 322 00:47:53.340 --> 00:48:03.239 WLWV School District: and that could be amended in the budget again, that would be licensed teachers on their own, willing to forego 2 days of pay 323 00:48:04.187 --> 00:48:08.560 WLWV School District: and for them it would be directly towards restoring license staff. 324 00:48:12.550 --> 00:48:19.636 WLWV School District: So in addition to the they're just talking about the Victory Staff and reducing in the hour. 325 00:48:20.300 --> 00:48:28.000 WLWV School District: please note that for for license classified under the human, they do have the caller in the set 326 00:48:28.709 --> 00:48:36.890 WLWV School District: for the different staff, and people only have a quota, but they don't for the for 2526, 327 00:48:37.210 --> 00:48:41.179 WLWV School District: some the different stats, if not how the lines up with. 328 00:48:41.600 --> 00:48:47.239 WLWV School District: So there is already an a way of reducing. 329 00:48:47.360 --> 00:48:52.810 WLWV School District: So it's just Cola, yeah. 330 00:48:58.614 --> 00:49:10.229 WLWV School District: I just wanna make sure we're checking in every once in a while to make sure that committee Member Blue is still hearing. Yes. 331 00:49:10.230 --> 00:49:12.660 Kishore Kollu: Yes, yes, I am. 332 00:49:13.170 --> 00:49:15.779 WLWV School District: And if you're ready, go ahead and ask your questions. 333 00:49:16.600 --> 00:49:19.440 Kishore Kollu: I do not have any questions at this time. Thank you. 334 00:49:19.870 --> 00:49:20.870 WLWV School District: I'm good. 335 00:49:21.110 --> 00:49:22.279 Kishore Kollu: I'm listening in. 336 00:49:24.870 --> 00:49:29.276 WLWV School District: I don't have a question at this time. I I wanna make a quick comment. 337 00:49:30.250 --> 00:49:37.250 WLWV School District: couple of comments. One. I I appreciate the the amount of effort that went into the many responses that you have 338 00:49:37.500 --> 00:49:41.590 WLWV School District: like Staff dug into to give to us. Very helpful. 339 00:49:41.810 --> 00:49:49.740 WLWV School District: I'm going to read something that reiterates what Dr. London said a few minutes ago. This was her response. To what 340 00:49:49.960 --> 00:49:51.640 WLWV School District: last year Whiting said. 341 00:49:52.171 --> 00:50:00.959 WLWV School District: it says the challenge is, no one wants to see a program eliminated athletics, arts, music, robotics, dual language, preschool, mental health services, and more. 342 00:50:01.460 --> 00:50:06.930 WLWV School District: And there's equally less community interest for consolidating smaller schools, or likely closing option schools. 343 00:50:07.270 --> 00:50:15.290 WLWV School District: Therefore, what's reflected in the budget is the absence of full program elimination. And instead, broader program reduction. 344 00:50:17.830 --> 00:50:22.809 WLWV School District: that is where we are right now, and I and I and I, 345 00:50:23.930 --> 00:50:31.669 WLWV School District: that's consistent with my feeling about what this budget should be right rather than eliminate programs for schools. 346 00:50:32.250 --> 00:50:46.450 WLWV School District: I believe that's what we should be doing. I worry that if we see further decline enrollment, if the State continues to not fund at the rate of increases. If we see Federal declining. 347 00:50:46.740 --> 00:50:50.390 WLWV School District: I'm worried that we'll get to a different place 348 00:50:50.790 --> 00:50:59.229 WLWV School District: by the time we get to another budget in 2 years. But right now I just want to say that I that statement about our 349 00:51:00.230 --> 00:51:05.140 WLWV School District: preference, which I think as a board, we felt, reflected the communities. 350 00:51:05.890 --> 00:51:11.810 WLWV School District: Thank you very much is that we did not want to eliminate programs. 351 00:51:12.150 --> 00:51:17.530 WLWV School District: And with that comes what we're getting right, which is a very hard decisions about broad development. 352 00:51:17.990 --> 00:51:21.545 WLWV School District: So I just want to start by by saying that 353 00:51:22.920 --> 00:51:26.650 WLWV School District: And then I also want to make a comment about furlough days 354 00:51:27.720 --> 00:51:33.840 WLWV School District: furlough. I remember furlough days, I remember, in 2,000, and after the 2,008 recession 355 00:51:34.130 --> 00:51:42.240 WLWV School District: furloughs really all over the country, and and certainly in our school district, as others as in other districts, I remember those furlough days. 356 00:51:45.190 --> 00:52:03.640 WLWV School District: I don't think we had resentment from teachers for doing that. I think we all felt like we read it together. I think right now, while our teachers may or may not choose, or any of our groups may or may not offer that, I want to be really clear what it is, is teachers saying, we're all going to give you 357 00:52:03.930 --> 00:52:07.100 WLWV School District: X $100, so that you have one up 358 00:52:07.450 --> 00:52:10.539 WLWV School District: that comes out of their pockets. That's what a furlough, is 359 00:52:10.910 --> 00:52:17.059 WLWV School District: it? Doesn't the word pearl. It doesn't necessarily sound like that to people, but it means our teachers as a pool 360 00:52:17.730 --> 00:52:29.749 WLWV School District: or other. Any other group as a pool is saying, Here, we'll give you money, and that comes out of their pocket out of their families. So rather than I mean, I think that would be. 361 00:52:30.350 --> 00:52:32.620 WLWV School District: I know there are districts that are doing that. 362 00:52:32.890 --> 00:52:34.689 WLWV School District: But I I just 363 00:52:35.320 --> 00:52:43.250 WLWV School District: I would be reluctant to approach the teachers group and say, we need you guys to do this right now. So I don't know what they're thinking, what they're talking about. But I just want to do 364 00:52:43.440 --> 00:52:47.549 WLWV School District: say that much and just for clarity 365 00:52:48.530 --> 00:52:58.780 WLWV School District: we have not approached. The board has not approached any group. Just so. Folks watching from home know that the Board has not brought up the subject of that, or asked that 366 00:53:00.040 --> 00:53:02.709 WLWV School District: Dr. Hughes and I have not asked that of staff. 367 00:53:03.367 --> 00:53:11.390 WLWV School District: This is that tension in which our staff feel while they want our legislators 368 00:53:11.690 --> 00:53:16.469 WLWV School District: to make some changes. There's also this reality that in the absence of that. 369 00:53:16.860 --> 00:53:23.990 WLWV School District: what does August and September look like. And it's also just speaks magnanimously about 370 00:53:24.360 --> 00:53:26.990 WLWV School District: how they want a student's experience to be. 371 00:53:27.530 --> 00:53:34.009 WLWV School District: and they also recognize that in solving that out of their paychecks does that then 372 00:53:34.160 --> 00:53:42.889 WLWV School District: create a false sense of adequacy at the state level of see? It got solved. 373 00:53:43.140 --> 00:53:46.050 WLWV School District: We must have adequately funded schools. 374 00:53:46.340 --> 00:53:51.460 WLWV School District: and so there is that tension right now across the State, around how to get the attention of 375 00:53:51.600 --> 00:53:59.129 WLWV School District: legislators, and also just the general public in Oregon, around how we fund public education. 376 00:53:59.760 --> 00:54:03.969 WLWV School District: And how is it getting fixed when it's really challenging? 377 00:54:05.330 --> 00:54:09.700 WLWV School District: And it shouldn't be on the backs of our our teachers, giving them parts of their paycheck. 378 00:54:11.420 --> 00:54:14.710 WLWV School District: Thank you much about it. 379 00:54:15.192 --> 00:54:41.790 WLWV School District: So I have 2, and they're more requests for kind of status updates. So not to put you on the spot. But the 1st was you mentioned this a little bit. But the revenue forecast from last week? And some of the status on grants. Could you just speak and give a general kind of status update on that forecast for all of us? But then also for the listening, and I know that that's a 380 00:54:41.850 --> 00:54:51.950 WLWV School District: it doesn't have to obviously get into detail. But just I think some of those underlying key points that we should all be aware of that are externalities that are affecting our budget. 381 00:54:53.840 --> 00:55:04.060 WLWV School District: One of the highlights in that revenue forecast is the reserve ending fund balance at the State level significantly. 382 00:55:04.390 --> 00:55:10.809 WLWV School District: so that line right there. But I've been telling her the message of me. 383 00:55:13.810 --> 00:55:17.348 WLWV School District: Yeah, there's a lot of big numbers here, and I think 384 00:55:18.100 --> 00:55:20.699 WLWV School District: which is why I didn't want to speak off of memory. 385 00:55:21.155 --> 00:55:40.520 WLWV School District: And I do. I do know that board members. You received a synopsis from Osba that had these numbers included so and to those watching from home that would become public information. And they can just do a Google search around June economic forecast, which always comes out then in the middle of May. 386 00:55:41.486 --> 00:56:00.129 WLWV School District: So this is some information again, this is very early on the key number. We're watching in the net general fund and lottery resources available for the 2527 biennium. This number is down 798 million dollars from the march forecast. 387 00:56:00.580 --> 00:56:25.879 WLWV School District: So March looked very hopeful, and we were doing a lot of advocacy, and to be down 798 million from the March forecast. Additionally, the corporate activity tax forecast. That's what finances the Sia Grant High School success. Grant it actually finances the Student Success Act, of which part of that is the Sia 388 00:56:27.490 --> 00:56:38.520 WLWV School District: which is the funding source for the Student Success Act saw a drop in productive revenue, a decrease of 44.4 million compared to the March forecast. 389 00:56:38.920 --> 00:56:41.190 WLWV School District: So this is where we're just hoping 390 00:56:41.540 --> 00:56:55.739 WLWV School District: they gave us an estimate for those grants. We've all budgeted them in here. It was even a little less. We have to move some folks into our general fund. And this looks like it's going to be down another 44.4 million. 391 00:56:56.520 --> 00:57:13.180 WLWV School District: So again, you know, this is real stuff out there that's affecting the whole state. So I you know, I I do want to comment that this is not about how our district is budgeting or decisions we made 4 or 5 years ago. This is today. This is real. This is what we're working with 392 00:57:14.413 --> 00:57:22.309 WLWV School District: the forecast shows the State's revenue, the State's reserve accounts decreased by over 400 million. 393 00:57:22.880 --> 00:57:32.570 WLWV School District: That's the Education Stability Fund, the Rainy day funding, the cash reserves. So those places where there's investments in the State can go to to fill the gaps 394 00:57:32.780 --> 00:57:35.970 WLWV School District: that's decreased by over 400 million 395 00:57:36.340 --> 00:57:42.890 WLWV School District: and are currently projected to reach 5.0 9 billion at the end of the 2325 biennium. 396 00:57:43.700 --> 00:57:47.939 WLWV School District: And then there's just some numbers about now what would be in each of those. 397 00:57:50.040 --> 00:57:55.100 WLWV School District: So key takeaways, I just try to read through this memo here. 398 00:57:55.230 --> 00:58:13.699 WLWV School District: Given the negative revenue news, k. 12. Advocates still need to make a clear and convincing case, to invest in our public schools, to meet the increase and increasingly complex needs of our students, we need to continue to advocate vigorously. For just to maintain that 11.3 6 billion, we don't want that to be reduced. 399 00:58:16.370 --> 00:58:25.030 WLWV School District: based on our early analysis of the forecast. It's unlikely that there'll be additional investments in our key budget requests for increasing the 11% cap 400 00:58:25.610 --> 00:58:33.380 WLWV School District: for the high cost disability reimbursement. Those are those 2 focuses that I know director, Sloop, and Director Vidal. 401 00:58:33.760 --> 00:58:39.620 WLWV School District: I would say at least half a dozen visits in person down to Salem, as well as countless 402 00:58:39.800 --> 00:58:47.440 WLWV School District: forums that they went to across the state and letters that they have championed along with parents in our community. 403 00:58:49.000 --> 00:58:59.479 WLWV School District: we will continue to look for opportunities for additional investments in special education. But at this point in time we recommend not counting on them for budgeting purposes. We'll let you know if that changes. 404 00:58:59.960 --> 00:59:10.339 WLWV School District: There is some hope that even though that rainy day fund and reserve fund is decreased, that the State may dip into that to keep the Sia rent 405 00:59:12.500 --> 00:59:23.410 WLWV School District: intact. In other words, fill that fill that gap, so that districts who budgeted on that staffed on that at this point in May could at least have those grants come through. 406 00:59:24.380 --> 00:59:36.810 WLWV School District: Yeah, when you say that, are you saying like for the biennium? Or do you think just for the next year's grants? How does that work. 407 00:59:39.040 --> 00:59:44.319 WLWV School District: I don't know how much they're different. The 11.3 6 is the biennium. Okay? 408 00:59:44.460 --> 00:59:51.669 WLWV School District: And then each year we get the update on those State grants, but they kind of play into. 409 00:59:51.820 --> 00:59:59.152 WLWV School District: you know what's allocated over the biennial. But each year we get our allocation for our State grants. 410 01:00:00.010 --> 01:00:07.519 WLWV School District: yeah, the Sia brand. We receive the SMS. 411 01:00:08.580 --> 01:00:13.769 WLWV School District: I I think I had sent an email to director sloop and hidal 412 01:00:13.930 --> 01:00:21.220 WLWV School District: with that news, and just said, I think our letters now to legislators, you know, can't be an all or nothing. But 413 01:00:21.690 --> 01:00:24.149 WLWV School District: could you at least fund it? 12% 414 01:00:24.570 --> 01:00:36.470 WLWV School District: on the special Ed, and then, with the promise of 13. So put something in there that shows this commitment to a year. Long. Process of advocacy from across the State 415 01:00:36.730 --> 01:01:01.040 WLWV School District: shouldn't go for not so how to recognize that the intention around that and I think our efforts need to now say, do something with that. That gives a nod in that direction that even might say, we'll increase it to maybe 12. Then we'll reevaluate our 13, and then, you know, but if they just feel we can't eliminate it or do 15. Well, then, do something. 416 01:01:02.400 --> 01:01:14.529 WLWV School District: and maybe use some of the rainy day reserves for that. But there's a nervousness across the nation, as you know, and across the State and rainy day funds are exactly for that, and they have to kind of determine. 417 01:01:15.260 --> 01:01:18.719 WLWV School District: You know how dire is it 418 01:01:18.880 --> 01:01:27.469 WLWV School District: when Director Shoemaker was talking about those years of furlough days and that economic crash, the State had no money to give us 419 01:01:27.730 --> 01:01:33.560 WLWV School District: our State school fund, and that's where we all had to take furlough days in order to just 420 01:01:33.920 --> 01:01:40.950 WLWV School District: cobbled together that year, and we paycheck to paycheck until you know this. The State could then restore 421 01:01:41.050 --> 01:01:49.429 WLWV School District: back because they had lost money, too. So there's a wonder around how that Rainy day fund or Education Stability Fund 422 01:01:49.590 --> 01:02:00.089 WLWV School District: may need to be tapped into, whether it's this year or next year to just even provide the State School Fund, let alone some of the other grants. So 423 01:02:00.390 --> 01:02:04.859 WLWV School District: it was really disheartening relief. And 424 01:02:07.100 --> 01:02:10.810 WLWV School District: you know, will it look different 6 months from now? 425 01:02:10.970 --> 01:02:15.529 WLWV School District: You know I don't. I don't know but the responsible thing to do when 426 01:02:15.650 --> 01:02:22.610 WLWV School District: programs in the State is to just be cautious. I think that's what this is saying is, we just can't afford to. 427 01:02:23.750 --> 01:02:29.060 WLWV School District: you know, to not have an ending fund balance to to be risky right now 428 01:02:31.120 --> 01:02:42.400 WLWV School District: and then. My second question again is a request for clarification. You know I think one of the hardest things that we have to try to communicate is how different 429 01:02:43.080 --> 01:03:12.389 WLWV School District: public education budgeting is from personal budgeting. And it's often because of these just very different timelines that all of our different organizations that we receive money from, or that, or the ways that we make payments or expenditures. And so it's, you know, you express that you shared a little bit. The Federal Grant cycle is a different fiscal year than our our fiscal year. And so but one thing I've been reflecting on has been that we have this point in time tonight. So budget approval. 430 01:03:12.730 --> 01:03:21.299 WLWV School District: then we have budget adoption. But then, as a school board, we can also make budget decisions. And so could you just walk us through 431 01:03:21.330 --> 01:03:49.259 WLWV School District: that timeline? Because I think to director Sleeps point was we still could learn so much things could change. We could have new you know, potential new revenue sources. We could have money from, you know, the sale of property things like that. So our decision making about budget doesn't start and stop. And it's final. Here we have lots of different points. But could you just walk us through all of those points, because I don't want tonight to seem 432 01:03:49.690 --> 01:03:55.961 WLWV School District: like, it's final in that. It's a step in a process for budget making. So 433 01:03:57.360 --> 01:04:03.034 WLWV School District: yeah. Well, I think you you hit 2 of the big ones. So tonight is the Budget Committee. 434 01:04:04.360 --> 01:04:22.619 WLWV School District: approving or determining if they can approve tonight's budget, which then they're what they're saying to the board is, we believe this is the budget going forward that we'd like you to adopt. But anything can happen between. Not anything but things could still happen between now and June. I mentioned a few of those tonight where there's 435 01:04:22.810 --> 01:04:24.330 WLWV School District: furlough or 436 01:04:25.380 --> 01:04:44.680 WLWV School District: we hear something about some reimbursements that the district is entitled to receive. Those are some things that the Board can direct. Even after the budget is adopted. There are decisions that the Board is making about budget all the time. But sometimes there's this thing. Will we affect the budget during the budget committee process? Actually, not 437 01:04:44.950 --> 01:05:05.759 WLWV School District: when the board approves a curriculum adoption. There's a dollar enough to that, and we work really hard to getting that amount just right. But that's an evaluation of can we afford that amount, and even though you estimate it in the budget, tell us how that's coming to fruition. And 438 01:05:05.840 --> 01:05:15.169 WLWV School District: is it more expensive or less expensive? So there are a number of times that we bring items to the board that have some fiscal implications. 439 01:05:15.320 --> 01:05:24.439 WLWV School District: The property sale was one of those that wasn't about tonight, but certainly impacts and has its fingerprints in that 440 01:05:26.840 --> 01:05:49.519 WLWV School District: There are times when a school district receives 2 numbers from the State, and then we make what's called a supplemental budget, but I think it was pretty clear this year. The only number we were hearing was 11 through 6. So districts have just budgeted on that. But what you read in my budget message is when we get more funding. Our 1st priority is class size 441 01:05:49.610 --> 01:05:59.420 WLWV School District: and is our is our classrooms, and then there may be a point where we say is restoring something else that comes alongside that class size right now. 442 01:05:59.540 --> 01:06:04.980 WLWV School District: emerging as another priority, and we would make that decision. But 443 01:06:05.320 --> 01:06:19.869 WLWV School District: you know, in the, in the very immediate, what we're looking at, what's on my mind, and I think everybody's mind is, where could we take a look at class size, at primary and at secondary? In some of our we call them class plots. 444 01:06:20.295 --> 01:06:30.389 WLWV School District: Again, we don't know what those are, but yes, we've still got some movement with enrollment. Sometimes families are quick to tell us they're coming, and later to tell us they're leaving. 445 01:06:30.550 --> 01:06:33.999 WLWV School District: and I can change some numbers around to the event as well. 446 01:06:34.789 --> 01:06:44.910 WLWV School District: What else were you thinking about in terms of timeline? I think so. I think it was more. I think that that's it. I mean, I think it just is kind of those 3 key points of tonight approval. 447 01:06:45.190 --> 01:06:51.270 WLWV School District: June adoption. But budget decisions can be made all summer long for I mean all year. 448 01:06:51.490 --> 01:07:05.010 WLWV School District: Yeah, because for the school district budget, it's really a snapshot that does at the time at that time. So this is a snapshot that we have up to today, right? So 449 01:07:05.220 --> 01:07:22.880 WLWV School District: like may purchase when the approval, saying that something changes right, or if they stay, student fund coming back and say, Now we have all of the school district submit in their final enrollment. 450 01:07:22.880 --> 01:07:37.659 WLWV School District: Then here is your final estimate, final sales. So this is just purely a snap we have today. And if you look at the general contractor at the point. 451 01:07:38.283 --> 01:07:43.816 WLWV School District: all of our estimate can dissipate the revenue that we 452 01:07:44.800 --> 01:08:03.360 WLWV School District: received we anticipate to receive in 2526. It's really based on a formula from the state of we we cannot have the flexibility like a private business. The only flexibility that we have is facility rental. 453 01:08:03.390 --> 01:08:21.929 WLWV School District: We're raising the piece a little bit with the already implementing this situation. When we have these music drama ticket, we can, you know, just a little bit of that. But 454 01:08:22.319 --> 01:08:41.910 WLWV School District: the common school fund of the property that the local banks. It's a fixed amount that based on one out of the 3 cents per 1,000, or a certain amount that the district received. We cannot say we want a dollar per 1,000 or something, you know it's not. It's out of our control for that, and discipline 455 01:08:42.479 --> 01:08:59.950 WLWV School District: and expenditure is like, let's say, based on the back and in contract. They see how many side. And then you know, when we put together the budget we work with, let's say, Portland, General Electric. 456 01:09:00.149 --> 01:09:17.269 WLWV School District: And they say, you know right now our best estimate for you see, 17% when 2 months later is so sorry. Go up to 28%. Now, you know, it's just all over the map that we we have to take the snapshot, the best one that we can. We put about that together. 457 01:09:18.439 --> 01:09:36.690 WLWV School District: Yeah, I think I would just add to that one of the reasons why Dr. Hughes does a monthly financial update. I think there's a couple months where we don't maybe coming off of something is to show you that things change throughout the year. So if the local option levy 458 01:09:37.069 --> 01:09:44.020 WLWV School District: came in higher, then Dr. Hughes puts that up on the screen and shows that adjustment 459 01:09:44.140 --> 01:09:46.429 WLWV School District: that came a little higher. 460 01:09:46.750 --> 01:09:52.990 WLWV School District: We don't know sometimes how people's homes are getting value, you know. This is what we estimated. Oh, it seems a little higher or a little lower. 461 01:09:53.810 --> 01:10:00.360 WLWV School District: or property taxes were collected at the rate we estimated or higher. You know, what does that impact 462 01:10:00.480 --> 01:10:10.909 WLWV School District: interest on investments? So those things can fluctuate and try and show you those as often as we can, as well as our percentage from the Usd that we get 463 01:10:11.030 --> 01:10:16.200 WLWV School District: because we're connected to every school district. The State does this 464 01:10:16.310 --> 01:10:32.379 WLWV School District: reconciling. You know, their own audit. They're truing up, and then sometimes they contact a school district and say, we actually gave you too much. And so they pull back, or we didn't give you as much. And so here's that adjustment. So those things do still happen. 465 01:10:32.500 --> 01:10:52.220 WLWV School District: Yeah, throughout the year, and that the timeframe is like. In December of 24, all of 197 school district have to submit the estimate of our budget to the State level, so they can do that calculation and come up with the estimate facing fun for us. So you can imagine that December. 466 01:10:52.340 --> 01:11:11.460 WLWV School District: Yeah. And what is the estimate for the electric 467 01:11:11.560 --> 01:11:29.729 WLWV School District: office have to go in and open this account. So we can update the information as we go. But you know, we have a hundred, 97 screen different. Some they update every month like me, some might forget. And so so when they reconcile 468 01:11:30.040 --> 01:11:45.689 WLWV School District: it, take a year after so like this company may, the State will come back and say, we calculate now we have an actual final number for all the school district. So, by the way, we overpay you by this much, or we underpay you by this much 469 01:11:45.690 --> 01:12:02.240 WLWV School District: so around May or June I will come to the door and say, to see my Monday financial report and the general fund and the Safe School Fund is come in a little bit more, because we will see the 15, or we come in less because 470 01:12:02.770 --> 01:12:14.350 WLWV School District: 1 1 assemble for this year is we have the consultative fees that we did not put in the 2425 budget, and I report to the board that we're coming out of contingency. 471 01:12:16.810 --> 01:12:27.880 WLWV School District: Yeah, I was going to kind of reiterate my final question that I had sent over just for others to hear. 472 01:12:28.010 --> 01:12:29.866 WLWV School District: So when looking back, 473 01:12:30.680 --> 01:12:40.350 WLWV School District: several years pre covid the staff to student ratio was lower than what it is today. So understanding that we're trying. 474 01:12:40.600 --> 01:12:47.979 WLWV School District: I have kids that are also in primary school. So I it is hard for me to see the amount of teachers that would be lost. 475 01:12:48.160 --> 01:13:14.729 WLWV School District: But overall just reviewing the numbers. I think we're coming back down to more of a normal kind of steady state and pre covid times. We are at a higher staff to student ratio than we have ever been. I believe so I think there's some normalization to be done. And while that's hard, I think that's important to understand that we're not going below previous 476 01:13:14.980 --> 01:13:24.159 WLWV School District: numbers from what we were. Historically, when the school district had an increase of students. Pre covid times. So 477 01:13:24.290 --> 01:13:27.296 WLWV School District: just wanted to make that point again. 478 01:13:28.560 --> 01:13:35.049 WLWV School District: one question I did have, though, as a follow up to that is, when looking at the types of roles that we are 479 01:13:36.680 --> 01:13:41.640 WLWV School District: looking to remove from the budget, mostly those obviously teachers. 480 01:13:42.200 --> 01:13:47.629 WLWV School District: One thing I would want to possibly suggest here is. 481 01:13:47.880 --> 01:13:54.380 WLWV School District: but what about looking into like outsourcing certain roles that are more of like maintenance staff, or 482 01:13:54.990 --> 01:14:14.060 WLWV School District: less like school specific jobs and teachers, so that going forward, obviously the largest costs are your salaries and benefits workers? Comp. All of those line items? Is there an opportunity to keep 483 01:14:14.310 --> 01:14:23.739 WLWV School District: staff that are teachers? And yes, you have to continue to pay some of those but roles that we could remove that could save money in the long run. 484 01:14:23.840 --> 01:14:42.680 WLWV School District: that we might be able to outsource. You know. I think of the substitutes. There was something done last year kind of down that route where the district is not having to pay for the benefits, and that might help kind of balance things out going forward. And is there an opportunity to kind of 485 01:14:42.940 --> 01:14:52.030 WLWV School District: revisit? You know, if it's nurses or other other staff in the district that unfortunately, I don't mean to, you know. That's it's hard for any job to get lost, but 486 01:14:52.440 --> 01:14:55.919 WLWV School District: just thinking it more from like a a business perspective. 487 01:14:56.500 --> 01:15:10.450 WLWV School District: How can we look at like the more of a long term solution to this, and and keep teachers more long term, and then remove some other roles, and then maybe rehire them, and you know not have to pay for 488 01:15:11.040 --> 01:15:14.669 WLWV School District: the second half of the the payroll costs. That are quite significant. 489 01:15:14.950 --> 01:15:26.910 WLWV School District: I I think you you identified. We identified at least one of those outsourcing that, as you see, are probably our our 2 largest under purchase services 490 01:15:27.030 --> 01:15:31.810 WLWV School District: is busing and substitutes which we do outsource at both of those 491 01:15:32.120 --> 01:15:47.844 WLWV School District: so and there are some districts that run their own. Decades ago they bought a fleet, you know, and now they're kind of in the business of running. You know their own transportation. It's not the business we want to be in 492 01:15:48.760 --> 01:16:02.329 WLWV School District: in our estimation. It's not a cost savings. It's just trading one type of work and managing another group of employees. So when we look at comparables of districts who run their own and districts who outsource. 493 01:16:02.490 --> 01:16:07.940 WLWV School District: There's really no, you know there isn't a savings. I would say 494 01:16:09.910 --> 01:16:24.239 WLWV School District: for us, just not having some of that liability around. Transportation is beneficial. But also just the maintenance of a fleet of buses, and all of that that requires as well and another union. 495 01:16:24.420 --> 01:16:50.829 WLWV School District: So we're really pleased with our our vendor per student. And they've been incredibly responsive to all of our requests. That doesn't always happen when you outsource. And now you're subject to a private company or somebody, and their cost increases, which you can't control either. But we've been able to negotiate very effectively with per student. And it's 496 01:16:51.590 --> 01:16:54.910 WLWV School District: It's been a collaborative 497 01:16:55.910 --> 01:17:18.589 WLWV School District: process as well as we're really pleased with the outcome of that. Similarly with edgestaff that was new for us. We're finding that our fill rate is is much higher than when our small team of Hr. Folks were trying to do it in evenings and on weekends themselves. Now there is a company that just has the infrastructure to do that, and we're seeing 498 01:17:18.590 --> 01:17:26.680 WLWV School District: that not only is it cost comparable, but that actually, we're filling more positions than when our team was trying to do that. So when we can 499 01:17:26.990 --> 01:17:39.980 WLWV School District: look at the benefits and the cost, and then the quality of what that gets us. We were not adverse to it, but we also move carefully through it. One of the other areas is some of our landscape. 500 01:17:40.618 --> 01:17:48.250 WLWV School District: That we have done some outsource with. They've changed names and with progress. Now it's crystal greens 501 01:17:48.650 --> 01:18:07.340 WLWV School District: I see pat nodding, and so in places where we can do that. And then there's just times where we believe some sometimes folks just close to network with students. We want our own employees in network, our teachers, our paraeducators, our regular day-to-day staff. 502 01:18:07.640 --> 01:18:19.990 WLWV School District: And we've invested in a lot a lot of talent in the district, and we have to weigh that as well? Do we keep investing in that talent and keep some of these really great employees? Or is it the right time? 503 01:18:20.560 --> 01:18:28.420 WLWV School District: So yeah, it's a good question. We're not adverse, but it's a very thoughtful situations. Once you do 504 01:18:30.220 --> 01:18:33.709 WLWV School District: contract that service, somebody can just increase 505 01:18:34.240 --> 01:18:42.730 WLWV School District: that cost, you know. And then, now, you're working really hard to negotiate and wondering if you'll ever get back that you could internally maybe 506 01:18:42.730 --> 01:19:06.700 WLWV School District: have control for. Yeah, which? Yeah. So thank you, you did identify our 2 biggest ones. Yeah, very good question. Yeah, yeah. Something that's like Dr. Mentioned about, you know, for students and and staff. But I think, can talk more to I think during Covid and after Covid we do have challenging. 507 01:19:07.328 --> 01:19:26.169 WLWV School District: And you know it's like some vendor working very well, and some vendors not working. Yeah, it turns out the the staff that come in did not understand the the 508 01:19:26.170 --> 01:19:39.620 WLWV School District: never worked with students before doesn't know how to support the classroom and the future. So so that drive did not work. And not only that they couldn't find, I mean there was this promise of 509 01:19:39.820 --> 01:19:47.559 WLWV School District: if you hire us and outsource, we'll get those folks, and we have no problem. And then we gave it a try, and 510 01:19:47.810 --> 01:19:54.810 WLWV School District: they had just as much problem. And so it really came back to it's not working to outsource. We're not going to keep 511 01:19:57.680 --> 01:19:59.440 WLWV School District: trying to force something that's 512 01:19:59.540 --> 01:20:08.499 WLWV School District: actually not benefiting this. But but the 3 we've kind of mentioned. Some of our landscape and education for a student has worked really well for us. 513 01:20:09.250 --> 01:20:11.270 WLWV School District: Thank you. Did you have anything. 514 01:20:12.240 --> 01:20:13.490 WLWV School District: Sure, Taylor? 515 01:20:13.890 --> 01:20:14.850 WLWV School District: Yep. 516 01:20:17.380 --> 01:20:19.800 WLWV School District: A question that I had was. 517 01:20:20.260 --> 01:20:22.600 WLWV School District: is there a potential at all for 518 01:20:22.840 --> 01:20:27.820 WLWV School District: a shared services? Agreement, meaning with neighboring school district 519 01:20:28.040 --> 01:20:38.969 WLWV School District: districts? You can talk as leaders or facilities, and and find common denominators of things that could be shared amongst district to cut costs. I know in the university system. 520 01:20:39.140 --> 01:20:55.560 WLWV School District: when I served on the board for for 12 years. The collective university system, whether it's Psu Wu osu. We all shared services that what broke that up is when the University of Oregon decided that they wanted to be the Stanford of Oregon. 521 01:20:56.243 --> 01:21:17.220 WLWV School District: And they took their donors case, and it broke the whole university system up. But what they did do they did not give up was their shared services, because it was more cost effective for them as a university to stay within that agreement is there the potential that districts can create or do they already have? Because I've never heard 522 01:21:17.300 --> 01:21:33.998 WLWV School District: a shared services agreement to cut costs across multiple districts, lake Oswego tiger, 2 wallet. And since they're the closest right and we should not share land, yeah. So great question. And for folks watching at at home who may not know this 523 01:21:34.370 --> 01:21:57.969 WLWV School District: but our what's called an education Service district. Our Esd is established exactly for that. It's to say, who are the collective 10 districts in Clackamas County, and rather than each district funding, going out and getting individual contracts for certain services. How do we consolidate so that our Esds are our greatest brokers for that as well as 524 01:21:58.331 --> 01:22:20.149 WLWV School District: facilitating a lot of those cost services, whether it's professional development. If we can't afford that keynote speaker or that training, we reach out to the Esd and say, Hey, there's 4 other school districts that want to do that. Can you bring it in at a better cost? So they have staff to either run the training themselves or then facilitate that. So that helps us with professional development. 525 01:22:20.751 --> 01:22:33.379 WLWV School District: And the Board knows this because you get that report every year from Esd, but information technology, our whole synergy system. The Esd is able to contract 526 01:22:33.830 --> 01:22:53.329 WLWV School District: and and also have huge servers and staff and some infrastructure. We were running a lot of things ourselves. Just because years ago school districts were kind of different stages, but now consolidating the more likely different than what we're running. So our it director, who's here 527 01:22:53.692 --> 01:23:03.840 WLWV School District: meets regularly with the other it directors, and again with our Esd. To see how we can garner savings by going into some agreements together with other vendors. 528 01:23:03.920 --> 01:23:08.210 WLWV School District: whether it's around cyber security software, or whether it's around 529 01:23:08.320 --> 01:23:18.469 WLWV School District: big things like eye visions or synergy. They also could provide tech support so that we don't have to have as much of that expertise on staff. 530 01:23:20.170 --> 01:23:22.269 WLWV School District: So professional development. 531 01:23:23.320 --> 01:23:38.700 WLWV School District: it support they also. We've contracted with them to do our early childhood evaluation services we were running that ourselves and out of cost savings. You heard about that for the 2425 year? That was one of our reductions 532 01:23:38.830 --> 01:23:43.200 WLWV School District: was to then have the Esd do that service for us. 533 01:23:43.787 --> 01:23:45.400 WLWV School District: Whether you wanna 534 01:23:45.400 --> 01:24:13.359 WLWV School District: call that Gina outsourcing? It's actually still within public education. But the Esd really is established to help very small districts, but even large districts, and say, we're all doing some similar work together. How do we grab savings? Some of those early literacy trainings that we had. Our teachers go to the Esd. Helped to get grants for that as well as funding for that. And that saved us 535 01:24:14.000 --> 01:24:17.060 WLWV School District: some student services support where. 536 01:24:18.070 --> 01:24:43.749 WLWV School District: like we had a visual impaired student in one of my last years, who had needs that would have been very expensive for us, but those kind of needs do happen throughout the town, and they were supported, I think, by yeah. And then there's like Columbia regional, you know. You'll kind of see that we can get some services there instead of going just right out to 537 01:24:43.860 --> 01:24:54.287 WLWV School District: private contractor. How are there some of these services that are still part of nonprofit, or somehow connected, and get funds from the State funds that then 538 01:24:56.664 --> 01:25:03.009 WLWV School District: school districts can afford or work collaboratively together. So I think that's what you're trying to get at is 539 01:25:03.370 --> 01:25:12.896 WLWV School District: helping folks to see. You know. What? Where is it that school districts are working together, that to reduce costs and 540 01:25:14.040 --> 01:25:18.249 WLWV School District: and then, you know, going together on some projects so that we can 541 01:25:18.470 --> 01:25:43.460 WLWV School District: more together than individually trying to do that is that the answer? It does, and that is the is there a palette for other line items on there for an Esd to take on right. So we know that they do this. But is there other areas within the budget that we can say, Hey, Esd? Looking at our budget? These other neighboring districts have similar. 542 01:25:43.770 --> 01:25:47.560 WLWV School District: and it might be for yard services just for the sake of the example. 543 01:25:47.990 --> 01:26:11.800 WLWV School District: Do we do a 3 way contract for one provider that can have the human power also gets funds from the State. So they're also seeing reductions and in their resolution services, and what they give, they can only work with what they get from the State. And so they passed their budget already, for next year they came and shared that with us, and so they have to kind of. 544 01:26:11.900 --> 01:26:32.180 WLWV School District: This is what they could deliver next year. But you're talking about even some private like the crystal greens, or something like that right? Right? I'd like to think that if Crystal Greens was going to lose 3 school districts they would have a reduction in price. I know I would as a business owner, because I would want that contract right? And so I mean things like that. And you know it's 545 01:26:32.200 --> 01:26:42.130 WLWV School District: I I think about it is if we're taking reductions and we're losing budget, and we're hiring private entities to do work for us, then they should be sharing in that 546 01:26:42.240 --> 01:26:47.390 WLWV School District: because we're a nonprofit organization, right? Or you could just not have our contract. 547 01:26:47.890 --> 01:26:51.109 WLWV School District: You know, there's someone else who will take that contract. I know it. 548 01:26:51.617 --> 01:27:09.439 WLWV School District: And so I'm just thinking through that and and where we can we do? And and I might come back to it in that is that our it department is exceptional at looking at those. Where? Where are we working with some of our 549 01:27:09.800 --> 01:27:32.730 WLWV School District: network providers, or or even pacific source automation? You know they get our Toner and our printers, you know. How do we leverage and know that other districts may also be using them and ask for reductions? So between Dr. Hughes and Mr. Duong. They're often negotiating very rigorously with some of those services. 550 01:27:33.140 --> 01:27:48.169 WLWV School District: haven't explored the one about groundskeeping. I don't know if others use, you know, are kind of in that creative hybrid model that we're in. But certainly, if it, if it came to that, they need on a regular basis as well. 551 01:27:48.170 --> 01:28:15.240 WLWV School District: And that was just an example. I was just using that as an example. Right? Right? So they're not hosting the server for the district, also hosting the budget software for parents from district and also the financial software. So they do that. 552 01:28:15.755 --> 01:28:38.029 WLWV School District: Very often when we have a business office manager meeting on the monthly regular if they feel there is enough need out there for small school district, they will propose an fte like, for example. We we need a financial analyst agreement 553 01:28:38.090 --> 01:28:41.389 WLWV School District: for your financial report. 554 01:28:41.540 --> 01:28:48.120 WLWV School District: And I my working with other school district. They say you know this school district 555 01:28:48.330 --> 01:29:16.580 WLWV School District: asking them a lot of questions, and they don't have enough resource to support. So they propose what we at the Penn student think if they hire one fte, and then pension leadership will share their thoughts, and we talk about the benefits and not benefits. What work for us, what not? And then we go to see if we okay with that. So so they talk about it. And they really excited the idea. 556 01:29:18.780 --> 01:29:25.469 WLWV School District: Thank you. I just have a couple of other questions. I know something that comes up routinely 557 01:29:25.720 --> 01:29:32.900 WLWV School District: and conversations especially since the small Schools Task force took place. Was 558 01:29:33.250 --> 01:29:40.529 WLWV School District: this, this concept of boundary changes to level out class sizes throughout the district where we don't have 559 01:29:41.170 --> 01:29:48.220 WLWV School District: individual schools with smaller numbers of students versus other schools which larger numbers of students. 560 01:29:48.340 --> 01:29:54.380 WLWV School District: Is there an appetite, or is there a a rationale or reasoning besides fraud on? 561 01:29:54.660 --> 01:29:58.060 WLWV School District: As to why we wouldn't balance out schools 562 01:29:58.230 --> 01:30:01.720 WLWV School District: from a boundary standpoint. I know it's disruptive to families. 563 01:30:02.309 --> 01:30:08.060 WLWV School District: The reality is, you can't have everything, and I know we live in a community that wants everything 564 01:30:08.250 --> 01:30:10.219 WLWV School District: which is partially why they live here. 565 01:30:10.794 --> 01:30:23.490 WLWV School District: But is there a way to balance out schools? Even if it's on a temporary basis? So that school class sizes can be, hey? For the 2,02526 year. You're going to here 566 01:30:23.600 --> 01:30:28.719 WLWV School District: right? And I know that takes you out of right. There's gonna be some upset families, but they're upset. 567 01:30:29.070 --> 01:30:31.999 WLWV School District: It doesn't matter if you do it all right. They're upset. So 568 01:30:32.690 --> 01:30:36.350 WLWV School District: is there a way that boundaries could change to level things out. I guess 569 01:30:37.020 --> 01:30:47.068 WLWV School District: you're talking about the primary schools. And I think we when we were going through the small schools process, we we talked about that. And 570 01:30:48.620 --> 01:30:55.140 WLWV School District: You know, when, when there are schools that are over capacity, and we actually need students 571 01:30:55.380 --> 01:31:03.690 WLWV School District: to shift somewhere else, there's a deeper understanding around. Why, that shift has to happen? Because there isn't enough room at a school 572 01:31:03.820 --> 01:31:07.279 WLWV School District: right now. All of our primary schools are under capacity. 573 01:31:07.740 --> 01:31:12.320 WLWV School District: So we have room for all the students and empty classrooms. 574 01:31:12.430 --> 01:31:13.325 WLWV School District: And 575 01:31:15.040 --> 01:31:27.159 WLWV School District: I'm going to use an analogy of rearranging the deck chairs is all that would be. It wouldn't save money to just rearrange the students and people of the schools open. 576 01:31:27.350 --> 01:31:32.200 WLWV School District: Yeah, it's not about opening. It's more about class size. So not the right. And 577 01:31:32.360 --> 01:31:57.420 WLWV School District: to do it for one year. I think you would hear from parents that would also feels really important is continuity for students that I mean, I think you heard. We want to stay bumblebees. We want to stay owls. We want to stay. I still want my my child wants to be a squirrel, you know, and families get very attached to their school community and and that neighborhood and that teaching staff. 578 01:31:57.860 --> 01:32:04.439 WLWV School District: And if it's not because we have to, in terms of. There isn't enough room at a school. 579 01:32:04.580 --> 01:32:14.449 WLWV School District: but just for like one or 2 years. Let's rearrange. I think we would get. I know we would get a lot of families who would say, I prefer not to move. 580 01:32:14.700 --> 01:32:25.049 WLWV School District: and our inner district transfer our intra-district transfer process allows families to choose the school. They'd like to go to if there's room. 581 01:32:25.550 --> 01:32:30.619 WLWV School District: and so it would be a pretty dramatic shift for a school board to say 582 01:32:31.130 --> 01:32:37.860 WLWV School District: no exceptions. You have to go to another school for 2 for one year, temporarily for 2 years. 583 01:32:39.240 --> 01:32:42.329 WLWV School District: To to even out some of that 584 01:32:42.985 --> 01:32:52.754 WLWV School District: so that will be a dramatic change in expectation, especially when we don't have to move to class for over capacity. 585 01:32:53.860 --> 01:33:01.749 WLWV School District: I think the other factor that we want to think about is, where does that school? 586 01:33:02.040 --> 01:33:05.129 WLWV School District: If there's a school right now that's under capacity 587 01:33:05.420 --> 01:33:11.390 WLWV School District: more dramatically than another which school is sending students. And right now 588 01:33:11.520 --> 01:33:15.880 WLWV School District: the only school that we have. That's over 350 589 01:33:15.990 --> 01:33:19.100 WLWV School District: or 375 is trillion. 590 01:33:19.440 --> 01:33:23.640 WLWV School District: So it does trillion become the school that sends 591 01:33:23.740 --> 01:33:53.659 WLWV School District: all its students to the other schools. Because if you take students from Cedar Row to Bolton, then you've actually just recreated the same situation at Cedar Row, for now they don't have enough students. So this there's a number of small schools where just moving from one small school to another doesn't solve that. You have to look at larger schools sending to smaller schools. And we're just Westland right now is A 592 01:33:54.000 --> 01:33:58.210 WLWV School District: is a set of 6, and but at least 593 01:33:58.620 --> 01:34:07.210 WLWV School District: 3 very small schools, and then we have some that are just a little larger than that. So we don't want to create an issue there by depleting that enrollment 594 01:34:07.320 --> 01:34:13.749 WLWV School District: and our largest school of 4, 50, or 4, 75, 4, 80 is, is trillion. 595 01:34:13.870 --> 01:34:19.120 WLWV School District: and does trillion become the school, then, that we ask every family there to go to another school. 596 01:34:20.170 --> 01:34:26.910 WLWV School District: That would be hard emotionally to do culturally to do in the district. 597 01:34:27.220 --> 01:34:32.819 WLWV School District: And and II don't know how that would be experienced. 598 01:34:33.030 --> 01:34:36.212 WLWV School District: I I can't imagine how it'd be experienced. 599 01:34:37.060 --> 01:34:43.319 WLWV School District: positively for families. Especially if it was said. We just want you to do this for a year or 2. 600 01:34:46.620 --> 01:35:02.859 WLWV School District: I don't know the process, so in trying to clarify the question there, so will some of these smaller schools, then not be as impacted by the class size increases to your point. 601 01:35:03.280 --> 01:35:16.184 WLWV School District: It's not just taking from one large school, but an entire shift of rezoning, I would think, for more of a long run, not just one to 2 years. 602 01:35:16.790 --> 01:35:29.448 WLWV School District: So maybe that is something that we think about is just trying to even the playing field at all schools, I think, is maybe more of what you were asking. 603 01:35:30.200 --> 01:35:53.709 WLWV School District: Well, is there a way that we can rezone and make things more equal across all the schools. So that class sizes level out, not just next year, but for, you know, even 5 years from now, with that definitely. And I'm gonna interject, because respectfully, I need to make sure that we're focused on the budget. And and and so I understand. 604 01:35:53.990 --> 01:35:58.020 WLWV School District: did the answer to be, yeah, that 605 01:35:58.450 --> 01:36:03.569 WLWV School District: shifting boundaries would not reduce budget costs. 606 01:36:03.760 --> 01:36:12.099 WLWV School District: And so if it is just a class size question, I don't think that's on the table tonight. So I just wanna be clarifying that 607 01:36:12.390 --> 01:36:13.670 WLWV School District: spectrum. 608 01:36:14.310 --> 01:36:15.290 WLWV School District: Thank you. 609 01:36:18.710 --> 01:36:22.358 WLWV School District: The other question that came up that 610 01:36:23.280 --> 01:36:26.530 WLWV School District: what is the Charter schools impact on our budget? 611 01:36:28.420 --> 01:36:50.920 WLWV School District: So you can see everyone turns to not that I don't know. I'm just asking, because the Charter school is something that a lot of our community doesn't understand. Yeah. And I the reason I'm asking folks to turn to because I want community at home. They're watching this to know that they are within our general fund budget, and you probably know the numbers that have been on zoom. 612 01:36:51.760 --> 01:36:54.929 WLWV School District: General fund function. 613 01:36:55.140 --> 01:37:04.779 WLWV School District: Chapter 3, 1288. That's a function 1288. That page 3, a dot 3 0. 614 01:37:05.770 --> 01:37:07.990 WLWV School District: Maybe that's reserved. 615 01:37:08.150 --> 01:37:08.715 WLWV School District: Thanks. 616 01:37:10.400 --> 01:37:26.289 WLWV School District: So our charter school is funded per student. And so we get the funding from the State as part of our large enrollment. And then we allocate right? Now, we give them 90%, 95% of that Adm 617 01:37:26.420 --> 01:37:28.880 WLWV School District: W to the Charter school 618 01:37:30.480 --> 01:37:59.579 WLWV School District: at the minimum school districts need to give 85%. And we get 80, we give 95%. So there it there is assumed that school districts probably cover some operational or administrative costs, and there are things that we provide for the Charter School, whether it's dark fiber or some tech support. We also provide still some special education support they join us for professional development. So they, of course. 619 01:37:59.590 --> 01:38:23.730 WLWV School District: very integral to our school district in a lot of ways, joining for a lot of leadership. Events and activities provide some safety and security consultation to them. And yet they're their own school with their own school board, and so they do have this economy within their charter. But you can see the amount that they're given, and it's based on the allocation of Admw. 620 01:38:26.730 --> 01:38:46.180 WLWV School District: So the budget based on their allocation is a hundred 10, and then every month, when we send that 110 students, and then every month, when we prepare the transfer to them. Then we confirm, if they have any. 621 01:38:46.300 --> 01:39:07.720 WLWV School District: it depend on the month that they have 2, 3, and that's all. So we get that information, and then on the back you will see the same fund information, and on that sales information. It says how much? That the district have to allocate to the school based on. 622 01:39:08.520 --> 01:39:12.719 WLWV School District: So that'd be one plus 1 million coming from that calculation. 623 01:39:14.750 --> 01:39:23.539 WLWV School District: Nope, I think that is all I have for right now. 624 01:39:26.630 --> 01:39:28.745 WLWV School District: Committee members do. 625 01:39:30.130 --> 01:39:36.549 WLWV School District: Thank you. I guess my questions are pretty kind 626 01:39:36.730 --> 01:39:47.830 WLWV School District: small, I guess. How does the district intend? This is our 5th year, if I understand, of declining enrollment and understand it is across the State. The State is losing children. 627 01:39:49.480 --> 01:39:50.889 WLWV School District: But it 628 01:39:51.500 --> 01:40:11.819 WLWV School District: board chair. Taylor. You mentioned something last year that you know we have a very and again kind of repeated tonight. Sounds like you've lived in Western a little bit. You can understand the people here. A lot of people want a lot of things. But we have a very expensive cost of living here 629 01:40:11.860 --> 01:40:24.870 WLWV School District: which doesn't seem to be encouraging. Families to want to relocate here seems to be a lot of people want to buy a big house, not have families. So how are we as a district intending to increase enrollment? 630 01:40:25.040 --> 01:40:30.539 WLWV School District: And I admit I am fully ignorant in this. So this next part of the question is, if my own ignorance 631 01:40:30.650 --> 01:40:39.840 WLWV School District: and please forgive me. But is there a way to ease the access for interdistrict transfers bringing students in from other places? 632 01:40:39.950 --> 01:40:48.880 WLWV School District: I understand that it's hard everywhere, a lot of districts that doesn't make our district a lot of friends if we're coaching children. But at the same time. 633 01:40:49.840 --> 01:40:58.600 WLWV School District: you know, there is kind of a A need. If this is the reality going into the foreseeable future. 634 01:40:59.890 --> 01:41:00.540 WLWV School District: the 635 01:41:01.440 --> 01:41:10.709 WLWV School District: we hosted an evening here with our K, 8 Qta parents and a lot of interesting community members after the small schools process around. 636 01:41:11.200 --> 01:41:17.107 WLWV School District: what are things we can do to affect families moving in or increasing enrollment. 637 01:41:17.760 --> 01:41:35.489 WLWV School District: and there's a lot of interest around. Let's advertise preschool more which we've done. Advertise our language programs more which we've done. And the board did they make a decision every year around interdistrict transfers, and they've opened 638 01:41:35.690 --> 01:41:52.389 WLWV School District: all schools to transfers. But it's contingent on the sending school district to also open. So we we only released 20 students and other districts could release none 639 01:41:52.730 --> 01:42:02.469 WLWV School District: or 20 or 60 or anybody who asks there. There are statutes around hardship where a district 640 01:42:02.910 --> 01:42:27.810 WLWV School District: could consider a hardship around a transfer. So we make that announcement. About January, February we begin releasing students and making ourselves open. There are some districts that only just this month approved their transfer releases. So that's why I said enrollment still changing. And you know we're we're happy to take students at the same time. We're all in this together. 641 01:42:27.850 --> 01:42:34.360 WLWV School District: and it's it's really hard in a neighboring school district, you know, since also declining. 642 01:42:34.640 --> 01:42:41.931 WLWV School District: And they're reducing staff, and they're trying to keep kids in their neighborhood schools. So we don't. 643 01:42:42.620 --> 01:42:43.929 WLWV School District: we don't recruit. 644 01:42:44.160 --> 01:42:51.569 WLWV School District: you know we we're not aggressive about it, but we just we do let them know we're open, and if it works for family to come here 645 01:42:51.680 --> 01:43:01.800 WLWV School District: we don't have them, but their district also has to release is no transfers unless you have a documented hardship, and it has to be. 646 01:43:02.180 --> 01:43:03.869 WLWV School District: They'll talk in New York 647 01:43:04.820 --> 01:43:20.539 WLWV School District: through the process. Whether you had a an issue of bullying at the elementary school, now the middle school, now the high school. Now you can. Now that's documented. You can now be considered for transfer. So there is no transfers being allowed from other districts. 648 01:43:20.550 --> 01:43:35.100 WLWV School District: I know tiger 12 0 transfer policy out at least to clarify. If the student were to transfer in we that goes to our account 649 01:43:35.470 --> 01:43:44.829 WLWV School District: from the State. But the Admw. Does come, so the money follows the student. We are not obligated to provide transportation. 650 01:43:44.990 --> 01:43:52.790 WLWV School District: So that also, you know, family has to really think if we drive our child every day to that other school district. 651 01:43:52.990 --> 01:43:59.359 WLWV School District: So thank you. Thank you for that. I I appreciate that education. 652 01:44:02.060 --> 01:44:03.530 WLWV School District: The 653 01:44:05.227 --> 01:44:13.560 WLWV School District: I guess the only other kind of thing that twigged in my head was regarding next year's budget. And is that at liberty to sort of speculate towards 654 01:44:13.790 --> 01:44:43.309 WLWV School District: okay, have we? And I again pardon my ignorance, and I do apologize. But I know that in this ever changing technological world often things get lost in shuffled. And have we done a deep dive on software as a service redundancies things that we pay for that serve a very specialized group of students or specialized area that is not cost us a great deal of money, but doesn't necessarily serve and could be served kind of. 655 01:44:43.780 --> 01:45:06.899 WLWV School District: you know, back back in my day. But back when I was in school a lot of this didn't exist. So the idea of having administrative staff take over those roles and responsibilities. And I understand that there will be potentially contracts and breach and penalties that have to be paid. And have we done an analysis on the idea that paying that breach, paying that penalty does provide a cost savings? 656 01:45:07.240 --> 01:45:17.769 WLWV School District: This is a very good question because we do create the list of software, and we track within the whole theme of the leadership. 657 01:45:17.820 --> 01:45:42.650 WLWV School District: So not only the It department oversee all the software. But the It department can be able to see which software that the business office, in the meantime learning or human resource can look at it. And look at this business office and see the software. And we come. We, we ask questions like 658 01:45:42.880 --> 01:45:53.970 WLWV School District: what it is software for like for me. When I put together the budget. And I ask questions and say. 659 01:45:54.080 --> 01:46:13.800 WLWV School District: last year, we pay for this software, plus it is help me understand what it is, software support what it is about. And then what is the contract plan with the 3 months? So we together, we review it. But we have 10 leaders on this website software. 660 01:46:14.000 --> 01:46:29.343 WLWV School District: Just a few examples come to my mind. And again, I'm just going to give a lot of credit to Mr. Duong, who's done a very deep analysis of a lot of our purchase services. Our phone system can go to a different vendor for that 661 01:46:30.380 --> 01:46:43.140 WLWV School District: migrating from zoom to teams because teams is bundled within our Google services. And so it's free, Google, right? Or Microsoft Microsoft 662 01:46:43.597 --> 01:47:12.190 WLWV School District: and so letting go of Zoom, even though people love it. But you know. And all these little changes. Okay, that's 30,000. This is maybe 20,000 50,000. It adds up 3 of those you got a teacher, you know. So we did did a lot of that work that went into still having to come and look at the 15 million, and we'll continue to do that. And if that gives us some more cushion in our ending fund balance, and then we realize we've got it 663 01:47:12.300 --> 01:47:19.259 WLWV School District: somehow during in August. Bring back 2 more teachers. It's because we're not going to stop doing that. 664 01:47:19.410 --> 01:47:46.369 WLWV School District: Our Operations Department is looking at, you know, cleaning supplies and all the rotating staff around a cleaning schedule. So we're kind of looking under the couch cushion wherever we can. But those vendor services are ones that we're scrutinizing way more than we haven't have had to in the past. Because every 2025,000, you know, makes a difference. Now, collectively. 665 01:47:47.080 --> 01:47:56.379 WLWV School District: so those are some areas that also come to mind in in addition to the outsourcing that we were talking about, and some of the other changes we're making. 666 01:47:57.240 --> 01:48:00.890 WLWV School District: That's it for me. Thank you. Yeah. Thank you. Good question. 667 01:48:01.140 --> 01:48:02.489 WLWV School District: Just take the phone. 668 01:48:03.117 --> 01:48:26.330 WLWV School District: Yeah, I'm going to get on my soapbox just a little. I have a comment. Shocker, I know. Yes, enjoy the ride. No kidding. I just want to say it's been a privilege to advocate with Director Sloop and Dr. Ludwig and our teachers during this legislative session. I am a product of 669 01:48:26.330 --> 01:48:51.009 WLWV School District: Oregon public schools, K. Through 12. I never saw my schools fully funded when I was in school, and one of my most vivid memories of underfunding was in 10th grade. In my math class we had over 70 students in my math class in the auditorium in Oregon City High School. So I can still vividly remember right now what that felt like. And I don't want that 670 01:48:51.010 --> 01:49:05.781 WLWV School District: for our kids today. And that's why I advocate so hard. And that's why I know that a good education gets kids out of situations that they would otherwise be stuck in. So given that my little soapbox 671 01:49:07.443 --> 01:49:34.780 WLWV School District: I want to appreciate all the primary schools. Especially our smaller primary schools in West Lynn. Like Bolton and Stafford and Cedar Oak for what they have been doing this year, like with open houses and trying to increase enrollment. But vice chair. Wyatt asked some questions, and on page 5 of her questions she asked about enrollment numbers. 672 01:49:34.780 --> 01:49:58.720 WLWV School District: and when we look I know I know Dr. Ludwig and Dr. Hughes. You both do not have crystal balls with you tonight, but when we look at primary enrollment we can see that this year. Well, next year primary enrollment is down 249 students. And the total decrease is 299. So that's 673 01:49:58.720 --> 01:50:14.999 WLWV School District: about 83%. And so that's really, really concerning because that's the impetus that's like the origin of our K through 12 education system. So when we look then to director sloop's point about 674 01:50:15.110 --> 01:50:39.849 WLWV School District: the number of staff we're cutting at the primary level, while I agree that cutting staff at the primary level is heartbreaking and tragic, and that cutting any staff at the at any level is heartbreaking. It looks like we're cutting 39, which is only about half of the number of teachers. So 675 01:50:40.250 --> 01:50:57.029 WLWV School District: and then they're experiencing this 83% decrease. So I would just say that I think we need to keep encouraging families to enroll their children in public schools, and that we have excellent public schools here in Westland and Wilsonville. 676 01:50:57.683 --> 01:51:26.280 WLWV School District: And then I was just wondering. I know in this answer it says that the data on enrollment will be changing weekly. But like, is there a good month to check in? Is there? Is it like August? Or when is a good August? Or when is a good month? I think when when you meet June 16, th we can give you 677 01:51:26.710 --> 01:51:34.900 WLWV School District: what we feel like. We've we've ended the school year kind of. But again, so 678 01:51:35.640 --> 01:51:44.620 WLWV School District: a class size is something you can to some extent also influence. If you say you know, do we have 679 01:51:45.190 --> 01:51:56.009 WLWV School District: a very large class here in a small class here, then I can give you that, or does a principal say, you know, I'm gonna make a blend when I make a blend. Now, they're both 680 01:51:56.240 --> 01:52:16.639 WLWV School District: a different number, right? And so that would be different information. I could say, here's a 30, and here's a 22. Yeah, or I make a blend. And they're both 25. Right? So right now, principals are being very careful around. I don't know if I'm making a blend. 681 01:52:16.770 --> 01:52:20.150 WLWV School District: but if I get more students I might undo that blend. 682 01:52:20.320 --> 01:52:23.980 WLWV School District: or my students go away, I might have to make a blend. 683 01:52:24.140 --> 01:52:31.869 WLWV School District: So when something is typed in a chart and presented, there's a tendency to fixate on. 684 01:52:32.170 --> 01:52:36.549 WLWV School District: This is what's happening west of Wilsonville, because if it came in this printed 685 01:52:36.590 --> 01:53:06.489 WLWV School District: box and this table and this must be what it is, and it's just so fluid still. Right now, for example, Charter hasn't done their lottery. School districts are just now around us, opening their transfers, and it's changing constantly. We could show you a little bit more around June 16, th because schools will have closed. Those transfers should be stabilized by then the lottery will be over. We could give you an idea about where we are. 686 01:53:07.067 --> 01:53:34.639 WLWV School District: With some average class size and know where our hotspots are, and then it kind of lulls over the summer. Families maybe reach out and tell us if they're enrolling or leaving, but then it'll amp up again when we hit about mid August. Okay? And then we see a little bit more movement again, and that can affect class size once again. The other thing we will have in place is 687 01:53:34.750 --> 01:53:52.432 WLWV School District: around mid July. If there's a decision around property sale, and the board has directed around some staffing we could be impacting by August on some Hotspots and bringing some class size down. Okay, and so 688 01:53:53.140 --> 01:53:56.190 WLWV School District: that that's just that tension of 689 01:53:56.400 --> 01:53:59.999 WLWV School District: to put something in a table today will get 690 01:54:00.610 --> 01:54:15.840 WLWV School District: posted on social media. This is what it is, yeah. And by by next week it's actually different. Because the principal decided to make a blend. Okay, you know. And now we panic to community about something that really isn't what it's going to be. So that's my only caution. It's not to 691 01:54:15.940 --> 01:54:24.580 WLWV School District: not about transparency. It's a no, I appreciations are really moving a lot. And so I think we 692 01:54:24.580 --> 01:54:50.750 WLWV School District: we could have more information to the board when you get ready to adopt the budget. That's great information. I have one more comment and one more question just, I wanted to commend Riverside High School. I know. They are under scrutiny by some members of the community, and they've increased enrollment next year for 60 by 60 students already. So I think that is you know. 693 01:54:50.840 --> 01:55:11.199 WLWV School District: increase in 38% is great, so I'm happy for them. And then my last question and this has to do with I know you do not have a crystal ball, but on page 3, dash b, 1. When we look at our Federal grants, we see that we get about 6.6 3 in Federal grants. And I'm wondering, you know, with all the 694 01:55:11.940 --> 01:55:25.760 WLWV School District: the rumors in the news constantly and again, I know you are not psychic, both of you. But are these? Are there any grants Federal grants that you are hearing that could be taken away, or do we not know that yet? 695 01:55:26.250 --> 01:55:34.050 WLWV School District: We we don't know. Okay, we don't. We don't know. Okay, I I would. I would venture like 696 01:55:34.240 --> 01:55:41.344 WLWV School District: I would be very surprised. If idea was 697 01:55:42.740 --> 01:55:45.298 WLWV School District: you know, taken away, or 698 01:55:46.890 --> 01:55:57.039 WLWV School District: nutrition services. I mean, there's a lot of sensitivity around special education feeding children. Yes, thank you. In terms of those title grants. Yeah. 699 01:55:57.516 --> 01:56:12.200 WLWV School District: Those are up to some speculation about whether the Federal Government might do something around those. You can see. We don't get as much in time. That's our demographics, but there are some districts that would be absolutely devastated 700 01:56:12.270 --> 01:56:27.245 WLWV School District: if their title, one funding, was eliminated. The other one, I think. There's a question around Medicaid. Yes, administration claiming so if there were some changes around that federally, we could maybe see that one change. But 701 01:56:28.110 --> 01:56:32.009 WLWV School District: that's as far as I can speculate. Thank you. I appreciate it. 702 01:56:33.770 --> 01:56:36.450 WLWV School District: Okay? So it's 7 o'clock. 703 01:56:37.250 --> 01:56:40.620 WLWV School District: And my understanding is this meeting goes to 7. 704 01:56:41.040 --> 01:56:41.710 WLWV School District: Right? 705 01:56:42.060 --> 01:57:02.439 WLWV School District: No. In the School Board world. We could go into Budget Committee. Member, Rachel. Well, let me start by saying, I don't want anybody to get the wrong question. It's 8.3 6%, not 83%. It's 300 students and 3,000. 706 01:57:03.260 --> 01:57:28.749 WLWV School District: Oh, no, I was talking about. So oh, this is this is my math. Okay. So in 2025, we had 88,860 students. Next year we're forecasted to have 8,561, which is a difference of 2 99. So I'm saying the total so, and then 249 707 01:57:28.750 --> 01:57:55.670 WLWV School District: is the difference for primary next year, and when you divide 249 by 299. It is 83%. Oh, it represents 83, sure, sure. And all I've done is just pass around just a few pages from flow analytics report. If folks at home reading this are wondering what we're 708 01:57:55.670 --> 01:58:02.279 WLWV School District: referencing when people are talking about the projection of enrollment, it's from that report which 709 01:58:02.910 --> 01:58:07.690 WLWV School District: people can find it in its full form on our website. 710 01:58:08.900 --> 01:58:16.949 WLWV School District: Okay? So I've spoken with several committee members. And I think we do. 711 01:58:17.100 --> 01:58:19.329 WLWV School District: I think people are starting to get it. 712 01:58:19.550 --> 01:58:30.610 WLWV School District: There is a problem. There is a definite problem, and we do require, I believe, the reduction that we are making this year of 17 million. I do believe that's true. 713 01:58:31.310 --> 01:58:38.209 WLWV School District: I am curious about how it will educationally impact 714 01:58:38.590 --> 01:58:54.590 WLWV School District: how the educational impact will differ between elementary schools and secondary. Is that okay? So I'm curious about that. I'm curious also about how the 715 01:58:54.760 --> 01:59:06.019 WLWV School District: this might look different in a school. A small school like Bolton versus a small, a school that is larger, like trillion or willamette hall. 716 01:59:07.690 --> 01:59:20.451 WLWV School District: or many others, and then lastly, I wanted to say that well, not. Lastly, lastly. 717 01:59:22.144 --> 01:59:26.249 WLWV School District: I wanted to say that I 718 01:59:26.470 --> 01:59:46.240 WLWV School District: strongly believe that the community supports all of our schools, not just small schools, and that we don't see them as small schools and bigger schools. We see them as 6 primary schools, and we don't have control over the boundaries of those schools. And so if 719 01:59:46.690 --> 01:59:51.719 WLWV School District: one school is being disproportionately impacted by Fte cuts. 720 01:59:52.100 --> 01:59:55.070 WLWV School District: you know, that's challenging. And then. 721 01:59:55.320 --> 02:00:04.040 WLWV School District: lastly, of that part, another last week. Is that actually 722 02:00:04.270 --> 02:00:05.890 WLWV School District: oh, wait. I'll wait on that. 723 02:00:06.290 --> 02:00:13.710 WLWV School District: Yeah, let me. We'll start there. We'll start there. Okay, so I think, the question about 724 02:00:13.970 --> 02:00:16.180 WLWV School District: how does this budget impact? 725 02:00:16.420 --> 02:00:29.759 WLWV School District: I think I heard you say, you know what my primary schools experience middle schools, high schools, and that maybe comes at Director Shoemaker's questions which I have to answer there around literacy and and math 726 02:00:29.950 --> 02:00:40.429 WLWV School District: and you know, how do we still actualize those goals with the introductions? I'm more curious about the difference between the different modules. 727 02:00:40.550 --> 02:00:41.570 WLWV School District: Well. 728 02:00:42.000 --> 02:00:58.139 WLWV School District: 1st of all, just the the structure is different. So in a middle and a high school, secondary school, you know, students have different classes, different teachers, and might experience a few courses which have a larger class size, and then maybe a few that have 729 02:00:58.540 --> 02:01:01.980 WLWV School District: a smaller one, just depending on 730 02:01:02.170 --> 02:01:18.439 WLWV School District: what schedule they selected between core and electives. So it's very hard, and I think I addressed it more. But it's very hard to get a class size and the experience of a student in secondary, when they could go to an Ap history and be in a class of maybe 731 02:01:19.130 --> 02:01:33.412 WLWV School District: 24, and then go to choir and be with 60. But actually a choir teacher loves 60 because you want a big choir, you know, how does a student experience that? And and students will have different levels of 732 02:01:35.610 --> 02:01:38.410 WLWV School District: you know, interaction for some. 733 02:01:38.860 --> 02:01:54.509 WLWV School District: I got my needs met, and for somebody else it just was too stressful. Too many and and I think that's why we have options of like a smaller high school, or also throughout the day options for different courses. 734 02:01:56.170 --> 02:02:20.770 WLWV School District: so that's just how secondary is set up primary, you know. If you're in Mrs. Smith's class kindergarten, you're in that class. But that cohort, that intact cohort all day. And so we are sensitive to the intactness of that. And when it's 2425, it's 2425, whether you're going to beat me, or music, or library, or in your classroom. 735 02:02:21.250 --> 02:02:31.810 WLWV School District: So that's why, you know, we we do look at primary with another lens around what I would call another equity of student experience lens. 736 02:02:32.030 --> 02:02:41.319 WLWV School District: because you can't really impact that intact cohort as much as maybe you could in secondary for students to have some variability 737 02:02:41.520 --> 02:02:45.520 WLWV School District: in their classroom and size. 738 02:02:45.710 --> 02:03:04.079 WLWV School District: The other thing that happens in secondary is when there are reductions. Sometimes we can't offer as many sections of something, because we would have to hire another teacher, and so a student might say, I really wanted to take a 3rd year of Japanese, but it only went to Japanese too. 739 02:03:04.240 --> 02:03:07.030 WLWV School District: or I have to wait and take. 740 02:03:07.270 --> 02:03:10.160 WLWV School District: of course, at another time in different semester. 741 02:03:10.520 --> 02:03:16.839 WLWV School District: So those are some differences. When you're making budget reductions around the experience a student has with their academics. 742 02:03:18.382 --> 02:03:20.220 WLWV School District: In terms of 743 02:03:20.920 --> 02:03:33.319 WLWV School District: support services. You know, there's obligations around English language development, special education that all students are entitled to have their iep. So those do get served in your secondary and 744 02:03:34.880 --> 02:03:43.190 WLWV School District: And then we did not reduce any counselors, so we did keep that support service intact across all of our K 12 schools. 745 02:03:43.780 --> 02:03:55.999 WLWV School District: as well as largely for the most part, all of our learning specialists. We made one reduction, but really it was around like I mentioned that enrollment and case size, and we were able to absorb that 746 02:03:56.190 --> 02:03:57.730 WLWV School District: reduction. 747 02:03:57.930 --> 02:04:01.880 WLWV School District: So we are sensitive around who are our students 748 02:04:02.090 --> 02:04:07.569 WLWV School District: at primary, middle, and high, and who need not just their classroom teacher, but other 749 02:04:07.730 --> 02:04:14.000 WLWV School District: staff, in order to get access for the type of education needs that they deserve to have. 750 02:04:15.320 --> 02:04:37.789 WLWV School District: and I could write a book about it. I know I didn't have all night, but maybe that gets at they it's apples and oranges. Take all that into account. No. And part of the question is for the community. Yes, I think there are questions about yeah. Primary school being disproportionate. So it's helpful. Thank you. 751 02:04:38.060 --> 02:04:55.929 WLWV School District: So what about? And and you know, sometimes there may be some secondary teachers that feel like, Hey, we're impacted, too. And will we get some restoring of of some? So I think it depends on 752 02:04:56.470 --> 02:04:57.990 WLWV School District: you're talking a good stuff. 753 02:04:59.337 --> 02:05:14.360 WLWV School District: And then you asked about smaller schools. Yeah, like the effective school in class size. Yeah. And I, you know, I think this is something we were trying to describe during the small schools process. And it again. It was not too 754 02:05:15.330 --> 02:05:23.719 WLWV School District: lay blame anywhere, but just the reality of when a school gets smaller there's just only so many 755 02:05:24.260 --> 02:05:26.200 WLWV School District: classrooms at each grade level. 756 02:05:26.440 --> 02:05:30.510 WLWV School District: And so when we have 1 5th grade class or 1 4th grade class, 757 02:05:33.000 --> 02:05:39.480 WLWV School District: that's just the reality versus a larger school that has maybe a couple of classes or 2 or 3, 758 02:05:39.700 --> 02:05:46.330 WLWV School District: and we were just explaining that that complexity of then how do you, Staff? But also 759 02:05:46.860 --> 02:05:50.590 WLWV School District: when families might say I'd like my child to 760 02:05:51.420 --> 02:05:59.319 WLWV School District: maybe not be in the same classroom with, you know, a couple of friends that they've been in class with. And so how do you? 761 02:05:59.430 --> 02:06:05.994 WLWV School District: You don't have another place to go, if that's a place. And so we have some some movement there. 762 02:06:07.640 --> 02:06:09.280 WLWV School District: And I think you know, that's 763 02:06:10.400 --> 02:06:28.490 WLWV School District: that's just going to be a factor, whether it's a private school that's small, and we get families who say, just got too small for my children. We're coming back to public school, where the schools are a little larger or a charter school, it starts to feel too small for those same constraints or our own neighborhood schools that are on the smaller end. 764 02:06:28.840 --> 02:06:31.050 WLWV School District: where there aren't as many options. 765 02:06:32.660 --> 02:06:43.499 WLWV School District: Yeah, I think that that people aren't necessarily wanting their schools to remain that small 766 02:06:43.620 --> 02:06:46.120 WLWV School District: and receive their cut need resources. 767 02:06:46.480 --> 02:06:55.569 WLWV School District: And so if we, if if the budget is cut to the point where it disproportionately affects some students, I would be concerned. 768 02:06:56.160 --> 02:07:11.869 WLWV School District: Well, we also looked at what we're spending. And I think that was one of the data points that we shared with the board around resources, also going into our smaller schools that it actually showed that more resource was going into our smaller schools than some of our other ones. 769 02:07:12.220 --> 02:07:16.350 WLWV School District: So you know, that's it's 770 02:07:18.130 --> 02:07:21.020 WLWV School District: think that's there's economies of scale. Right? 771 02:07:25.320 --> 02:07:28.099 WLWV School District: Yeah. I mean, there's a point where you know. 772 02:07:28.760 --> 02:07:35.430 WLWV School District: school has a principal. And we did reduce some support staff. But there's a point where. 773 02:07:36.070 --> 02:07:40.040 WLWV School District: whether you're bringing, operating a small school a little bit larger one. 774 02:07:40.500 --> 02:07:52.159 WLWV School District: you're still operating utilities. You still have to have a core group of staff there in the office and leadership and learning specialists and and specialists like Music library. 775 02:07:52.510 --> 02:07:56.469 WLWV School District: So where we can always, you know if we combine and make 776 02:07:56.680 --> 02:08:12.720 WLWV School District: a larger school, and you actually are more efficient. I think that's what you're saying about it, is it is. But it also speaks to the boundaries around the schools and having more options for those schools that are smaller for their class size. 777 02:08:13.676 --> 02:08:15.760 WLWV School District: Yeah, I'll just say, we. 778 02:08:15.970 --> 02:08:21.289 WLWV School District: you know this, this budget is based on decisions that the Board made. So we're not here to. 779 02:08:21.810 --> 02:08:30.914 WLWV School District: you know. Re, relitigate small schools process. We have 16 schools, and we've we've done our best. 780 02:08:31.530 --> 02:08:42.443 WLWV School District: and you know staffing isn't complete. We've been waiting to see, as I as I mentioned, who enrolls and how we can best then stem each building and 781 02:08:43.160 --> 02:08:48.649 WLWV School District: you know, music will still be at every school, and new at every school and library at every school 782 02:08:48.750 --> 02:08:52.880 WLWV School District: and special education services and Yelding services 783 02:08:53.070 --> 02:08:59.349 WLWV School District: and recess and lunch and math, and I mean every core subject will still be taught. 784 02:09:00.970 --> 02:09:07.700 WLWV School District: Can we control for how many classrooms you'll have in each school that's really about who enrolls. And 785 02:09:07.940 --> 02:09:12.060 WLWV School District: I'm still in the need to flipping that boundary. So yeah, yeah. 786 02:09:12.471 --> 02:09:19.099 WLWV School District: Yeah, no. My only point was to say, are we? Are we funding at a level that will support those smaller schools? 787 02:09:19.320 --> 02:09:22.120 WLWV School District: And so they are not disproportionate. 788 02:09:22.890 --> 02:09:27.209 WLWV School District: And there's there's multiple equity lenses. You could say a smaller school 789 02:09:27.520 --> 02:09:41.449 WLWV School District: needs to have an equity lens, and so does a school that maybe has more families experiencing poverty and more families experiencing transition or houselessness, or under certain 790 02:09:41.830 --> 02:09:46.480 WLWV School District: constraints. And so we always also want to have that equity lens in our district 791 02:09:47.770 --> 02:10:02.410 WLWV School District: around how we staff and resource like Staffer, we have 16 schools. So there's more than just 6 primary. Yeah, there's 9 primary schools. Yeah. 792 02:10:07.080 --> 02:10:26.740 WLWV School District: one thing we had talked about, and I think it'll be helpful for people to understand is that there is a or not talked about. I. Some information I received is about class sizes from the negotiations. The teachers contract right, and it was really helpful for me to see that 793 02:10:27.288 --> 02:10:31.230 WLWV School District: that finished contract, and what the class size is 794 02:10:31.440 --> 02:10:38.200 WLWV School District: are what the target ranges are. And I'm wondering, one. 795 02:10:38.964 --> 02:10:49.869 WLWV School District: and number 6. I understand that it. It recognizes financial limitations that may impact whether or not the district can change the class size. 796 02:10:50.020 --> 02:10:52.260 WLWV School District: Tell me more about that. 797 02:10:53.270 --> 02:11:16.060 WLWV School District: Yeah. So just for folks watching from home. Budget committee member, beavers is referencing in the Wwa contract. It talks about ranges that we negotiate. What would the range for kindergarten class the range for grades 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and you have those in your questions. 798 02:11:17.820 --> 02:11:21.589 WLWV School District: They were submitting your part. 2 799 02:11:22.160 --> 02:11:25.065 WLWV School District: And then there's the recognition that 800 02:11:26.230 --> 02:11:51.140 WLWV School District: you know, once you've created some class sizes, changes can happen right before school starts. Even midyear kids move in or out. And what can the district do to keep those ranges in mind, but then also adjust. And so there's 6 guidelines. One is. Well, can you reassign, students? And that's what we mean by the blend, you know, and that's how you can affect the class size. 801 02:11:51.562 --> 02:12:10.200 WLWV School District: Additional paraeducator time. So sometimes we start at the school year, and the class size is in that range, and then you get 4 sets of twins move in. You know. Something happens. And you know, the class size is a little larger, but we don't want you in the middle of the year. 802 02:12:10.900 --> 02:12:18.825 WLWV School District: you know. Break it up. And so we work with the teachers. They're going to add some parent support. So that's a way to do that 803 02:12:20.160 --> 02:12:26.127 WLWV School District: And sometimes, whether you've been one of those parents that have experienced it all of a sudden. It's 804 02:12:26.760 --> 02:12:54.939 WLWV School District: mid September. And Principal says, you know, we just got more late move-ins, and we're actually going to create 2 classes out of this 1st grade, and we hire the other teacher. We'd love some families to volunteer to go to the other classroom and a classroom teacher is added, and that happens to bring those class sizes down, and then number 6, which is the one you're referencing. There's sometimes a recognition that you may want 805 02:12:55.040 --> 02:13:08.649 WLWV School District: to divide a classroom. But what if there was another classroom this school over capacity already? We can't get a modulating building out there. We might need to just have some larger class sizes if there's a space capacity issue, 806 02:13:09.620 --> 02:13:36.709 WLWV School District: or the time limitation being something with like a secondary schedule. But then, also, just financially, you may want to do it, but we just aren't able to. So the the association gives recognition, for we'll do our best to talk through the impacts of a large class size. What can the district do to mitigate that? And also recognizing that there may be. 807 02:13:37.290 --> 02:14:02.830 WLWV School District: I really appreciate that that question was because I think it's going to be really helpful for the community to understand where what filter we're looking at now. And I also want to say. I really appreciate all the time and energy and thorough responses that you provided. It's been so helpful and just being able to get not only my questions answered, but a context for that question. 808 02:14:06.470 --> 02:14:09.239 WLWV School District: Do you have other questions? That's it. Good. 809 02:14:10.158 --> 02:14:13.110 WLWV School District: Let's take a break 810 02:14:13.330 --> 02:14:24.819 WLWV School District: like 5 min, and then we'll come back. We'll see if there's anything else that needs to be addressed, and then has anything more he wants to follow up on at this point in time. 811 02:14:25.430 --> 02:14:27.220 Kishore Kollu: No, thank you. I'm good. 812 02:14:32.290 --> 02:14:39.569 WLWV School District: I want to quickly respond to a couple of things. I'm in support of this very tough 813 02:14:39.800 --> 02:14:56.376 WLWV School District: budget. I think if it is what the board, and the community has indicated that they want in terms of having reductions instead of eliminations. You have accomplished that the best that you can. 814 02:14:59.020 --> 02:15:04.589 WLWV School District: I was on the board in the past when we 815 02:15:05.470 --> 02:15:27.300 WLWV School District: analyzed the information that we got on enrollment to make sure that those were numbers that the school district could depend on. We adjusted who we use to provide those analytics. And I just want to say that that is something the district has used for a very. 816 02:15:27.750 --> 02:15:51.160 WLWV School District: We continue to test that. We continue to make sure it's useful information, and we do rely upon it as the best guess, moving forward, and also to talk about how we utilize the general fund, and how certainly, during my time on the board, we paid attention to the information that we received from Dr. Hughes about what percentage 817 02:15:51.160 --> 02:16:00.330 WLWV School District: is within the norm and is recommended to keep, and that we knew tougher times were coming, even though we weren't having them. 818 02:16:00.390 --> 02:16:14.050 WLWV School District: and that sometimes we would have a larger class size. We wouldn't hire another fte in order for this day, and it has come, and those aren't things that were done 819 02:16:14.160 --> 02:16:31.649 WLWV School District: last biennium. They were done prior bienniums, and those are the kind of thoughtful planning that has been done for some time in this district, and I want to say also that in terms of the choice school those are things that are 820 02:16:31.770 --> 02:16:56.879 WLWV School District: our community has asked for. Our students have asked for, and those are things that take time to get in place, and that I'm really pleased to see the additional enrollment in Riverside, and those again are consistent with long term goals that the district has had in place from the board and the community. 821 02:16:59.139 --> 02:17:04.869 WLWV School District: Does anyone else have any follow up questions from questions that were asked, are we ready to move 822 02:17:05.790 --> 02:17:08.639 WLWV School District: to the next agenda point? 823 02:17:09.459 --> 02:17:10.490 WLWV School District: Okay. 824 02:17:11.330 --> 02:17:19.910 WLWV School District: do we have a sense that we're ready to get a motion on the table today in terms of this budget. 825 02:17:20.680 --> 02:17:21.330 Kishore Kollu: Yes. 826 02:17:22.730 --> 02:17:25.139 WLWV School District: Okay, can I have a motion? Then 827 02:17:27.930 --> 02:17:33.599 WLWV School District: motion to approve the proposed budget. Document 2025.26. Is there a second? 828 02:17:38.750 --> 02:18:07.910 WLWV School District: I'm going to need you, Mr. Steele, to read the entire text of this document and thank you for doing it, because I always got the numbers messed up. When I do you see this whole thing 829 02:18:09.109 --> 02:18:14.650 WLWV School District: motion to approve the proposed budget fiscal year 2025, through 2026. 830 02:18:16.100 --> 02:18:35.330 WLWV School District: The motion is, is to the motion to approve the Westland Wilsonville School district 3, J. 2,02526 budget, as proposed, establishing the maximum total expenditure for each fund is as follows, do you want me to read each of those out loud start with general fund? Yes, understood General Fund as proposed. 831 02:18:35.629 --> 02:18:54.070 WLWV School District: $158,035,887, $0 for adjustments approved $158,035,887 and 0 cents, special revenue, $31,683,624. You could just read the proposed. 832 02:18:54.650 --> 02:19:14.309 WLWV School District: understood debt service, $44,057,708 and 0 cents. Capital projects, $32,214,601, with 0 cents, total budget, $265,991,820 and 0 cents. 833 02:19:14.680 --> 02:19:22.310 WLWV School District: It is further moved that the approved budget is to include an assessment of the permanent tax rate maximum rate of 4,000 834 02:19:22.820 --> 02:19:28.360 WLWV School District: $4. I was like. That's a period $4, 86 835 02:19:28.469 --> 02:19:50.820 WLWV School District: for $1,000 of taxable property value, which will raise approximately $51,995,986 and 0 cents for general fund operations and a debt service fund tax levy of $31,984,570 and 0 cents to service the district's general obligation bond, long-term debt. 836 02:19:51.810 --> 02:20:10.790 WLWV School District: be it further moved that the Budget Committee approves the local option tax passed by the voters on November 7, th 2023 to levy an additional tax of $1 and 50 cents per 1,000 of assessed value limited to $5 per 1,000 of real market value for all tax taxes subject to educational limits 837 02:20:11.630 --> 02:20:18.240 WLWV School District: approved by the Westland Wilsonville School District 3 jt. Budget Committee this 19th day of May 2025. 838 02:20:19.240 --> 02:20:26.590 WLWV School District: Will you call the world? Thank you. Lewis Taylor. Aye, aye, Kelly, sloop. 839 02:20:27.700 --> 02:20:35.879 WLWV School District: Aye, Dan Schumacher aye, Megan bidal. Aye, Gina day, aye, Rachel beavers! Aye, Keisha. 840 02:20:36.330 --> 02:20:36.830 Kishore Kollu: Hi. 841 02:20:36.830 --> 02:20:41.339 WLWV School District: Charles Steele. Aye, Ginger Finch. Aye, thank you. 842 02:20:42.110 --> 02:20:46.379 WLWV School District: The motion approved is approved unanimously. 843 02:20:46.790 --> 02:21:00.540 WLWV School District: I will turn it back over to Superintendent, and just to clarify for the record. We had a motion. Did we have a second? I hadn't heard that. So I just want to make sure we had that. 844 02:21:04.210 --> 02:21:24.789 WLWV School District: Thank you. Budget Committee enormously. We're not over the finish line. The board will hear. All of this information. Anything that transpires between now and then, and see if it impacts the budget in any way before they make a budget adoption. All of you are invited to that meeting. We hope that Budget committee members. Attend 845 02:21:25.673 --> 02:21:29.390 WLWV School District: and and observe that process 846 02:21:29.941 --> 02:21:45.219 WLWV School District: before you leave. I would just like to say, because we won't be meeting Wednesday as a Budget Committee that does free up that work. Session, then for School Board members to only have on the agenda the capital bond. 847 02:21:45.260 --> 02:21:59.820 WLWV School District: So when there's a question of what else can we do to impact the budget for capital bond is a big decision around that as well, because items on the capital bond that are paid for that source. We have been the general budget 848 02:21:59.820 --> 02:22:19.170 WLWV School District: and and there is potential, then, for us to see some savings in the general fund next year if we do have a capital bond. So I know all of you know that. But that's just another way that board members can impact hiring more staff and bringing some relief to that very tight budget. 849 02:22:19.440 --> 02:22:36.425 WLWV School District: So your homework Board members now, on Wednesday, I want to thank and recognize Mr. Reho Douglas, who's been sitting here through this, has put together a packet that you will. Then this is for our board members. Thank you. 850 02:22:37.330 --> 02:23:00.720 WLWV School District: just so. You have items to look at before you convene back in this same room on Wednesday, Wednesday. So this is a lot of it will look familiar on the capital Bond Summit. But we'll engage in just that agenda item now, and we will start at 4. Thank you. Pm, if that works for folks to come earlier. Does that work? 14. 851 02:23:03.350 --> 02:23:23.551 WLWV School District: Okay. Oh, work sessions are always available by the public. Okay, so they are a board meeting. And so the public is welcome to observe that they won't engage in it to be the board who's engaged, and then, on June 16, th the Board will 852 02:23:24.080 --> 02:23:34.819 WLWV School District: deliberate again to adopt the budget that's been approved by the committee, and we'd love for Budget committee members to observe that from home, or to come in person. And to observe that. 853 02:23:35.700 --> 02:23:39.660 WLWV School District: And then, lastly, this person to my left, yes. 854 02:23:40.110 --> 02:23:45.320 WLWV School District: has given an extraordinary amount of time, and her team 855 02:23:46.134 --> 02:23:49.509 WLWV School District: but particularly Dr. Humans, to 856 02:23:50.020 --> 02:24:17.739 WLWV School District: not just the programmatic implications, but down to every little number that you only had to read a few. Imagine writing, all of you know, and I'm just so grateful for leadership, and how conscientious and thorough she is, and that that she loves this school, I know and and loves this district. So thank you. 857 02:24:20.340 --> 02:24:34.910 WLWV School District: Thank you to every single of you for the platform questions and then also thank you to the leadership team, principal and school superintendent. Technical. 858 02:24:35.250 --> 02:24:51.550 WLWV School District: Thank you. Everyone. Budget Committee for your time, for your questions and and for your work. The district staff, the Budget Committee work is done and we're adjourned.